WorkPlace Ethics
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Michael P Butler wrote: This sounds juicy, care to share any more details Er, not much of detail really. I just had this habit of kissing a girl who sat next to me, every time some complicated bug was overcome or when something worked after 2 days etc... Apparently other people didn't appreciate this much. I wonder what could have been bothering them!!! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: Er, not much of detail really. I just had this habit of kissing a girl who sat next to me, every time some complicated bug was overcome or when something worked after 2 days etc... Cool. As long as she didn't mind, then I see nothing wrong with it. Nishant S wrote: Apparently other people didn't appreciate this much. I wonder what could have been bothering them!!! Envy and jealousy ;-) Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Nishant S wrote: Er, not much of detail really. I just had this habit of kissing a girl who sat next to me, every time some complicated bug was overcome or when something worked after 2 days etc... Cool. As long as she didn't mind, then I see nothing wrong with it. Nishant S wrote: Apparently other people didn't appreciate this much. I wonder what could have been bothering them!!! Envy and jealousy ;-) Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: Cool. As long as she didn't mind, then I see nothing wrong with it. Yeah, but the social culture here is kinda weird. For example we don't have even partial nudity in our movies and even kissing is shown from a long angled shot. Michael P Butler wrote: Envy and jealousy Hmmmm. Yeah that too :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Michael P Butler wrote: Cool. As long as she didn't mind, then I see nothing wrong with it. Yeah, but the social culture here is kinda weird. For example we don't have even partial nudity in our movies and even kissing is shown from a long angled shot. Michael P Butler wrote: Envy and jealousy Hmmmm. Yeah that too :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: For example we don't have even partial nudity in our movies and even kissing is shown from a long angled shot. I guess that's why India is so good at cricket, all the other fun stuff is frowned upon :-D Saying that, I'm not sure how people would react if I started kissing my coworkers (especially since they are mostly blokes). The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss - must be our Victorian roots showing. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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This is what we call CI , coorperate identity, or better coordinated insanity... We have white walls with nothing on it, and it's not allowed to put a callendar or sth. similar on it, every chair is in the company the same, and: these chairs are so f...ing bad X| and lots of these things, it's CI....:omg: But all in all I like it here anyway...!:-D
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
:suss: :rolleyes: :suss:BB (see profile) sits on my monitor making sure everyone behaves :cool: Elaine (bear owning fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Ethics and rules are two different things. I try to be a very ethical employee ( for exmample, I would not write a mag or CP article that exposes stuff proprietary to work ), but as far as rules go, where I work is pretty relaxed about things that don't matter for people who understand what does matter, and apply themselves to it. That's how it should be - we're skilled workers, not plumbers. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Sounds like your employers respect the workforce :cool: :-D Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Sounds like your employers respect the workforce :cool: :-D Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
My bosses are also developers, and it's a young company. It rules. I took a pay cut to work there, and my last job was far from terrible, it was pretty darn good, too. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Nishant S wrote: For example we don't have even partial nudity in our movies and even kissing is shown from a long angled shot. I guess that's why India is so good at cricket, all the other fun stuff is frowned upon :-D Saying that, I'm not sure how people would react if I started kissing my coworkers (especially since they are mostly blokes). The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss - must be our Victorian roots showing. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss Even my kisses were friendly kisses on her cheeks. Nothing outrageously passionate about it. I like to do my passionate stuff in private. That's what made me think this place is all weird. This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Michael P Butler wrote: The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss Even my kisses were friendly kisses on her cheeks. Nothing outrageously passionate about it. I like to do my passionate stuff in private. That's what made me think this place is all weird. This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! You need to get yourself to France, they love doing that kind of thing. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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BB (see profile) sits on my monitor making sure everyone behaves :cool: Elaine (bear owning fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
We're not even alowed to place pictures on the desk or some other personal s(maybe silly) stuff... But I have my own way of feeling 'home': I just don't tidy my desk ;););)
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
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Well I was once warned about public kissing! But then I guess they had a point. Other than that my work place is very relaxing :-) Except for the lack of bandwidth :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Over here in the U.S., I would get fired or sued if I kissed a coworker!
"Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
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Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... Well My friend always grudge abt her workplace becos they are not suppose to eat anything inside the cubicle or in office premise and so whenever she has to eat she has to do out and eat..Till now she didnt complain but since now she is pregnant :-D She feels more hungry and so she has to do lots of walking to get a bite of food ;P..I really feel pity of her... Do u too have such irritating rule......:wtf::omg: cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
super wrote: Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. Of course, I´m not a "employee" from the company, I´m "contracted company", so I have no "employee" rights. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
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We're not even alowed to place pictures on the desk or some other personal s(maybe silly) stuff... But I have my own way of feeling 'home': I just don't tidy my desk ;););)
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
:suss: :rolleyes: :suss:Got a digital camera? Come in early one morning, decorate your cube in all sorts of ways that break the rules. Then snap a picture, set the image to the background picture for your workstation, and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state. More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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super wrote: Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. Of course, I´m not a "employee" from the company, I´m "contracted company", so I have no "employee" rights. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Ethics and rules are two different things. I try to be a very ethical employee ( for exmample, I would not write a mag or CP article that exposes stuff proprietary to work ), but as far as rules go, where I work is pretty relaxed about things that don't matter for people who understand what does matter, and apply themselves to it. That's how it should be - we're skilled workers, not plumbers. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Ethics and rules are two different things. Absolutely. I have very strong feelings about ethical and honorable behavior. Surprisingly, my personal code which mandates that I ignore stupid rules rarely causes an ethical conflict. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Well I was once warned about public kissing! But then I guess they had a point. Other than that my work place is very relaxing :-) Except for the lack of bandwidth :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: I was once warned about public kissing! I've seen what most programmers look like. I'm not convinced this is a bad thing. :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Sadly too true. I've worked for a few companies in my time and most management have never got it. Even after some of them have read Peopleware and Debugging the Development Process (bought for them by me), they still don't get it. Does being a senior manager blind you from the obvious. It certainly looks that way to me. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Dead right! That's exactly the point here. I tend to work from home but if I go into the office, it's just like working from home except that they don't have an espresso machine and (rightly) I have to go outside to smoke. But we work whatever hours we like, we have a fridge, a kettle, a constant supply of coffee, milk, orange juice. Each of us have our own CD players on the desk (obviously not paid for by the company). If it's going to affect anyone else we use headphones but the office is generally arranged so that people with the same tastes in music sit near each other so it's rarely necessary. We can use the internet for whatever we like, even when the boss is watching, as long as it never makes things slow for customer downloads. If I've finished what I'm doing one day then I leave at whatever time I want with no questions asked, so I never have to sit around pretending to work because there's no point in me starting the next job for half an hour. The potential for abuse is remarkable but I've never worked with a more productive group in my life. Trust your workers and they don't have to spend time trying to figure out ways around the system. Paul
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Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. I bet on the pigs too. :laugh::rolleyes: Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
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Got a digital camera? Come in early one morning, decorate your cube in all sorts of ways that break the rules. Then snap a picture, set the image to the background picture for your workstation, and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state. More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state Cubicle?? My desk is in a lab with five other coworkers, but anyway a pretty good idea !!!!!!! :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D Christopher Duncan wrote: More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... No, it's called Coordinated Insanity !!!
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
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