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  • M Marc Clifton

    Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc

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    brianwelsch
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    Marc Clifton wrote: Thank you very much for this link. You're quite welcome. :) I kind of think all the talk about war, is setting the stage for one last ditch effort in that regard. A final push towards a peaceful change, but if that doesn't work, which I sadly feel it won't, then the US moves in with, hopefully, a larger support base. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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      I'm guessing South Korea....

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      Tomasz Sowinski
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      Well, actually Samsung seems to like communism a lot, so he'd probably install himself in North Korea :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

      To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc

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        Tomasz Sowinski
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        Marc Clifton wrote: I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance LOL :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

        To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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        • S Samsung

          For some other guy US is not good place for live.

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          Nemanja Trifunovic
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          Samsung wrote: For some other guy US is not good place for live. Than this other guy should move to China, I guess. ;P :beer:

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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            Yes. :beer:

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            Samsung
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            For some other guy US is not good place for live.

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            • T Tim Ranker

              I'm guessing South Korea....

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              brianwelsch
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              Afterall, that's where the company is, right? BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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                Afterall, that's where the company is, right? BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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                Tim Ranker
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                Yes it is.

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                • B brianwelsch

                  Wouldn't want to be anywhere else in the world! :-D BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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                  Samsung
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                  No, there is no chace. US or US or US. ;) I have choice, you see. :)

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Samsung wrote: For some other guy US is not good place for live. Than this other guy should move to China, I guess. ;P :beer:

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                    Samsung
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                    It is up to him.

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                    • P pankajdaga

                      Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Ultimately, all war is related to some economic profit. This is a time of economic crisis and the US will start a war against Iraq to bolster the weapon and oil industry. I do not like Sadaam. I, personally, would love to see a change of regime. But the point is that US cannot be a bully and tell everyone how to run their country. Nor can it make the UN redundant and try to rectify whatever it thinks is not "right". Iraq is merely a convenient whipping boy. The country, and Saddam Hussein, have been so thoroughly demonised by a pliant western media, and painted so completely as the Great Satan, that even if the Americans dropped a hydrogen bomb on Baghdad nobody would object. The modus operandi seems simple: whenever the US feels macho, bomb Iraq. There is no major political cost, just a bunch of dead Iraqis, and who cares about them, anyway? Bombing a country, putting a puppet regime and sucking all its resources will not end the war against terror. If I am a child growing up in Afghanistan and a stray US bomb killed my whole family...yes, I will hate US the rest of my life. Yes, you have sowed the seeds for another Osama. Well, just my two cents. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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                      Are you really that naive?

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                      • A Andrew Torrance

                        Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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                        Jason Henderson
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                        I know what communism is so I am not being ignorant. I have the knowledge and am turning away. That's more than I can say for some.

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          Samsung wrote: Everything has bad and good side, even communism. Such as? Lessons in Marxism? Prosecution of relligion? Bad economy? Corruption? "Broderhood and unity"? Lupas, burazeru... ;) :beer:

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                          Samsung
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                          Marx does not lie anything. You have chance to see it in US, if you want. You can see where is base of capitalism economy. Religion!? Who cares about religion in capitalism, money is god - You know what is written on dollar: In God we trust. But, do not use "communist" thinking with your last sentence, or you accept capitalist thinking. ;)

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                            Marx does not lie anything. You have chance to see it in US, if you want. You can see where is base of capitalism economy. Religion!? Who cares about religion in capitalism, money is god - You know what is written on dollar: In God we trust. But, do not use "communist" thinking with your last sentence, or you accept capitalist thinking. ;)

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                            Jason Henderson
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                            Answer my first question! Where the heck are you??? Its apparent that you either have never lived in a free country or you have been completely brain washed. Marx was a fool. Communism hurts the people it professes to help the most! Capitalism is the natural system of barter and trade between individuals. Money is simply a standard (govt supported) method of exchange. The individual is the one that worships money, not all capitalists. I could say that communism is the merger of the religion of humanism and government. A lethal combination if you ask me.

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                            • T Tomasz Sowinski

                              What about Sharon then? Four is better than three :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                              Joshua Nussbaum
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                              There is a big difference between Sharon on those 3 idiots. Please don't joke like that.

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                                What about Sharon then? Four is better than three :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                                To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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                                Felix Gartsman
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                                Tomasz Sowinski wrote: What about Sharon then? He is too fat for sex change operation:)

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                                  Tomasz Sowinski wrote: What about Sharon then? He is too fat for sex change operation:)

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                                  Tomasz Sowinski
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                                  They could make female siamese twins out of him :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                                  To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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                                    Marx does not lie anything. You have chance to see it in US, if you want. You can see where is base of capitalism economy. Religion!? Who cares about religion in capitalism, money is god - You know what is written on dollar: In God we trust. But, do not use "communist" thinking with your last sentence, or you accept capitalist thinking. ;)

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                                    Samsung wrote: Marx does not lie anything He did not lie anything. But he described the 19th century capitalism, which is quite different from what we have today and I was forced to learn about it in school X| Samsung wrote: Religion!? Who cares about religion in capitalism, money is god It's a matter of choice, isn't it? If you like money, go for it. If you don't, be poor and enjoy. In communism you don't have a choice. :beer:

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                                    • S Samsung

                                      Ed K wrote: Israel is in a defensive mode. After Israel occupied Palestinian territory it is in deffensive mode, of course.

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                                      Joshua Nussbaum
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                                      bro, you obviously dont know the history Jews have lived in Israel for over 2,000 years. Prior to the Jews, the land was inhabited by the Philistines (NOT Palestinians, "Palestine" is a name the Bitish gave to Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian and other Arab immigrants that moved into the area in the early 1900s. Philistines are an ancient civilization that no longer exist). In the early 1900s Jews outnumbered Arabs 10:1 in the region. When the British decided to leave the region, it originally allocated a mucher larger area for Jews (All the way to the Jordanian river). But because of a huge Arab uproar, they had to retract and give the Jordan area to the Arabs, leaving only a small area for the Jews. Now Palestinians want peices of that land too. Where does it end? So there was never any occupation. This land always belonged to Jews (Acheological digs back this up). Arab immigrants in the area wanted there own land. And even after all that has passed Jews have been nice enough to give them Gaza and the West Bank. I think Jews have gone way out of the way to be nice to these people.

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                                      • F Fazlul Kabir

                                        On the issue of weapons of mass destruction etc., I was reading an interview with Nelson Mandela of S. Africa on NewsWeek yesterday.. Q. What about the argument that’s being made about the threat of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and Saddam’s efforts to build a nuclear weapons. After all, he has invaded other countries, he has fired missiles at Israel. On Thursday, President Bush is going to stand up in front of the United Nations and point to what he says is evidence of... A. …Scott Ritter, a former United Nations arms inspector who is in Baghdad, has said that there is no evidence whatsoever of [development of weapons of] mass destruction. Neither Bush nor [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair has provided any evidence that such weapons exist. But what we know is that Israel has weapons of mass destruction. Nobody talks about that. The complete interview is here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/806174.asp[^] What do you think? // Fazlul

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                                        Fazlul Kabir wrote: What do you think? I think that there are still people who belive that: (A) The world is flat (B) NASA never sent people to the moon. Its a hoax (C) The US Govt. actually flew the planes into the WTC to discredit the Arab states so we could grab their oil. (D)The Bible is always right and if you don't believe in it totally you are going to hell (E) The Koran is always right and if you don't believe in it totally you are going to hell (F) The Detroit Lions are going to win the Superbowl (G) Saddam is just bluffing and if he had WMD's he wouldn't use them and if he did use them it would only be against Israel and it eouldn't matter to their economy since its WAY OVER THERE. (H) Israel would not retaliate with WMD's of its own because they don't really have any. Guess what - BOOM Goes Bagdad - BOOM goes Tirkrit - fallout all over the oil fields from Iraq to Iran to Saudi. Oil prices thru the roof. (I) America should stop spending so much time and money on defense and give the savings to the poor countries and ALL WOULD BE WELL. Yea Right I find it amusing that people with demonstrated intelligence could believe some of the things that they do believe even though from all recorded history the truth of the saying "Do not suffer a tyrant" is evident. Richard We are called the nation of inventors. And we are. We could still claim that title and wear its loftiest honors if we had stopped with the first thing we ever invented, which was human liberty. Mark Twain- Foreign Critics speech, 1890

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                                        • T Tomasz Sowinski

                                          pankajdaga wrote: Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                                          To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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                                          pankajdaga
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                                          Yes, I have. Lived in China for 12 years. So, I am sure I have seen more of it than most of the people here. I am not saying that communism is a perfect system, I am saying that neither is Capitalism. It has its faults and whenever there will be an economic crisis, as it will be with the present framework, wars will happen. The big bully will push its weight. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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