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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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Unfortunately for Michael this behavior does not seem to be limited to "these crooks" as he terms them.
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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Everything Nesmith says might be true (I really don't know), but they should never send those kinds of emails. Now they're going to be endlessly quoted, even if the emails are completely out of context. They could have said, "No, we won't do business with you". They achieved nothing by sending such nastygrams, and the emails will haunt them for years. Very poor judgment.
Best wishes, Hans
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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... Revenge of the Killer Law Suit "Just when you thought it was safe to step back into the lounge!"
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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Everything Nesmith says might be true (I really don't know), but they should never send those kinds of emails. Now they're going to be endlessly quoted, even if the emails are completely out of context. They could have said, "No, we won't do business with you". They achieved nothing by sending such nastygrams, and the emails will haunt them for years. Very poor judgment.
Best wishes, Hans
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My opinion exactly. Short of an extremely offensive email from the [potential] client, nothing should change a company's professionalism.
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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Simple google search shows more of the same See the comments of this blog http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2008/5/13/My-apology-to-InstallAware-Software-Corporation[^]
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
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... Revenge of the Killer Law Suit "Just when you thought it was safe to step back into the lounge!"
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
I sat back and looked at your post and I was trying to think of a smart reply to that because I find your posts exceptionally entertaining Martin, but I'm honestly lost for words. Seriously though, 5 for the humor :-D
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Everything Nesmith says might be true (I really don't know), but they should never send those kinds of emails. Now they're going to be endlessly quoted, even if the emails are completely out of context. They could have said, "No, we won't do business with you". They achieved nothing by sending such nastygrams, and the emails will haunt them for years. Very poor judgment.
Best wishes, Hans
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Yeah, something like :
"Unfortunately, due to legal reasons beyond our control, we only sell to the USA, UK, Canada, . . .[list of countries here]"would have been a better way to do this than what they chose.Regards, Nish
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Simple google search shows more of the same See the comments of this blog http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2008/5/13/My-apology-to-InstallAware-Software-Corporation[^]
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
Incredible. How does a company like this stay in business is beyond me.
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Incredible. How does a company like this stay in business is beyond me.
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The guy who started it used to work at InstallShield, I don't know what he took with him when he left. One Guy assets in the blog comments, he gave him free software with source code until he could no longer take it any longer. Now they are claiming IP :mad: I am for strong protection of IP, it appears they are playing double standard.
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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The sad thing is, your the previous rant may have turned away more people from InstallAware than this post will get back. (I'm not trying to make you responsible)
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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The sad thing is, your the previous rant may have turned away more people from InstallAware than this post will get back. (I'm not trying to make you responsible)
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistI never had a previous rant. :confused:
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I never had a previous rant. :confused:
yeah, it wasn't yours - my fault :-O
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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The sad thing is, your the previous rant may have turned away more people from InstallAware than this post will get back. (I'm not trying to make you responsible)
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
than this post will get back.
I don't think Brady meant it to do that anyway. :)
Regards, Nish
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I sat back and looked at your post and I was trying to think of a smart reply to that because I find your posts exceptionally entertaining Martin, but I'm honestly lost for words. Seriously though, 5 for the humor :-D
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I sat back and looked at your post and I was trying to think of a smart reply to that because I find your posts exceptionally entertaining Martin, but I'm honestly lost for words.
Sometimes you just have to admit you're beaten :-D I've given better than I'd got with people like Dalek Dave, but I doubt I'd last for a minute against the witty Mr. Hughes. This man, and Jim Crafton, are geniuses, pure and simple.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I sat back and looked at your post and I was trying to think of a smart reply to that because I find your posts exceptionally entertaining Martin, but I'm honestly lost for words.
Sometimes you just have to admit you're beaten :-D I've given better than I'd got with people like Dalek Dave, but I doubt I'd last for a minute against the witty Mr. Hughes. This man, and Jim Crafton, are geniuses, pure and simple.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
Without a doubt. I'll add to that venerable list, Masters Pete O'Hanlon and Jon Oakman and that's certainly not making the list exclusive :)
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The guy who started it used to work at InstallShield, I don't know what he took with him when he left. One Guy assets in the blog comments, he gave him free software with source code until he could no longer take it any longer. Now they are claiming IP :mad: I am for strong protection of IP, it appears they are playing double standard.
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
Yusuf.A wrote:
I am for strong protection of IP, it appears they are playing double standard.
I'm with you on both of those brother..
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Without a doubt. I'll add to that venerable list, Masters Pete O'Hanlon and Jon Oakman and that's certainly not making the list exclusive :)
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Why won't the worm just leave me be?
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This morning, as champion of the innocent, brave, caffeine fuelled warrior for fellow developers, I rattled off an email to Michael Nesmith of InstallAware, and received the following response: Thank you for your concern Brady, but we have a lot more history with these crooks than, of course, what their limited copy-paste shows. I would encourage you to evaluate InstallAware on your own terms and sample our services if you are truly interested in the product. Otherwise, I hope you have enjoyed the freak show. Unfortunately, these people have stolen our and our partner company IP's multiple times, and we will not dignify them with any kind of public response. Thanks... Michael Nesmith Technical Support Representative InstallAware Software Corporation 336 Guerrero Street San Francisco CA 94103-3332 415 839 5017 -----Original Message----- From: Brady Kelly [mailto:xxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM To: michaeln@installaware.com Subject: Candice Jones I hope you realise just how many sales this [1] has truly cost you. I have never come across such disgusting behaviour in thirteen years of developing or buying software. [1] http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?fid=1159&df=10000&mpp=25&noise=3&sort =Position&view=Quick&fr=26&select=2994975#xx2994975xx
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