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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

    GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

    With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

    get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

    And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

    getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

    Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

    (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

    I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    Just use shorter identifiers. I've started to use namespaces a lot for that reason. I use a notation that looks like this: IO::Backup::Database(...). My apologies if namespaces aren't available in your toolset. Personally, I prefer camel case over underscores in long identifiers.

    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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    • R Roger Wright

      I prefer to use names that contain umlauts[^] over each vowel. Reading it is a bitch, and typing it is much harder, but it's my own style, and I like that. It's important, I think, to express one's individuality in the workplace.

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      I guess my first name has made a good impression on you then? Not sure if I want to impress you even further with Jörgën though. People could mistake me for a french man! ;)

      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

        GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

        With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

        get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

        And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

        getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

        Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

        (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

        I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

        Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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        rriosarias
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        The main problem in you examples is not the case, but the lenght of the function. GetMyXML() is not difficult to read at all. If you function or variable names are that long, you might need to split the functionality into smaller parts.

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          Computafreak wrote:

          IHaveNeverReallyHadThisProblemBecauseIFindItEasyToBothReadAndWrit

          You find that easy to read? :~ As for ease of writing, how many time did you have to press Shift?

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          ToniWett
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          Yes - it's readable! BTW: ... the same number you had to press both :thumbsdown: underscore and shift simultaneously (swiss german keyboard)!!!

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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

            GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

            With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

            get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

            And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

            getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

            Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

            (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

            I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

            Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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            Alan Balkany
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            Back in the mainframe days, before PCs were invented, underscores were a standard way of making long identifiers readable. As people have observed, it's slightly more effort to type, but code is only written once and read many times. More effort and expense per line of code is expended in maintenance than initially creating it, so if it makes your code more readable it may be worth it.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

              GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

              With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

              get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

              And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

              getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

              Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

              (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

              I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

              Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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              T800G
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              YouCan'tHaveACamelWithoutAHump :laugh:

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

                GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

                With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

                get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

                And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

                getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

                Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

                (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

                I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

                Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                grgran
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                #67

                GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile() get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file() Either way that's a LOT of typing wouldn't this be better: Gmpdff() ?

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                  GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile() get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file() Either way that's a LOT of typing wouldn't this be better: Gmpdff() ?

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  #68

                  grgran wrote:

                  wouldn't this be better: Gmpdff()

                  Nah - you still need to hit the Shift key. Maybe: gmpdff()

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    grgran wrote:

                    wouldn't this be better: Gmpdff()

                    Nah - you still need to hit the Shift key. Maybe: gmpdff()

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                    grgran
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                    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                    grgran wrote: wouldn't this be better: Gmpdff() Nah - you still need to hit the Shift key. Maybe: gmpdff()

                    *blush* ... of course you are right, clearly just reading the thread tainted me :-)

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                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                      Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

                      GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

                      With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

                      get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

                      And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

                      getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

                      Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

                      (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

                      I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

                      Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                      M Towler
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                      Where I work we use both at the same time, so everyone is offended :) CamelCaseForClassAndTypeNames underscores_for_variable_and_method_names

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                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                        Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

                        GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

                        With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

                        get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

                        And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

                        getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

                        Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

                        (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

                        I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

                        Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                        Plamen Dragiyski
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                        #71

                        Actually as a JS coder I preffer that naming:

                        //Get My Precious Data From An XML File
                        gmpdfaxmlf();

                        Publish the code without comments :) And make sure you keep copy of it with comments! :P

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

                          GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

                          With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

                          get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

                          And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

                          getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

                          Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

                          (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

                          I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

                          Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                          Terry Meritt
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                          I have always used Camel Case because it is easy to read. I hate reaching for the underscore anyhow. Give me the main three rows of keys for ease of typing. Anyhow it is part of the accepted coding conditions for VB programming.

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                          • M M Towler

                            Where I work we use both at the same time, so everyone is offended :) CamelCaseForClassAndTypeNames underscores_for_variable_and_method_names

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #73

                            M Towler wrote:

                            we use both at the same time, so everyone is offended

                            But at least everybody knows the other side is offended as well :)

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                            • T Terry Meritt

                              I have always used Camel Case because it is easy to read. I hate reaching for the underscore anyhow. Give me the main three rows of keys for ease of typing. Anyhow it is part of the accepted coding conditions for VB programming.

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #74

                              Terry Meritt wrote:

                              Anyhow it is part of the accepted coding conditions for VB programming.

                              I admit I didn't have VB in mind when I started the thread :)

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                              • C Cedric Moonen

                                I really don't like having underscores in method or variable names :~. Just a matter of choice. And I find the CamelCase notation not really difficult to read or write.

                                Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                ssclaire
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                                Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                I really don't like having underscores in method or variable names

                                Agreed. I'll manage either way but I prefer keeping a single symbol (variable/method name) easily discernable unlike:

                                unfortunately_wrong_because = this_symbol - looks_a_lot_like - this-symbol;

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  Why most programmers (at least Windows and Java programmers) use this horrible notation? It is both hard to write and hard to read:

                                  GetMyPreciousDataFromAnXMLFile()

                                  With undrescores it is at least easy to read if not to write:

                                  get_my_precious_data_from_an_XML_file()

                                  And of course, there is always a way to make it easy to write but hard to read:

                                  getmypreciousdatafromanXMLfile()

                                  Lispers have the best of both worlds (well, except for the parentheses):

                                  (get-my-precious-data-from-an-XML-file)

                                  I feel better now - feel free to vote me down :)

                                  Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                                  byff
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                                  To the OP: agreed, in general. But for small variable names, camelCasing is definitely easier and doesn't exact too harsh a reading penalty. The difficulty in reading grows with each word added, so if you can keep your names to two-three individual components, you should be all right. By contrast, sticking in a bunch of underscores can seriously extend the length of a variable name, which I begin to find just about as onerous as reading scrunched names. So, my advice is to use underscores if you really need them, but be as sparing as possible. (Hint: they do make a great way to abbreviate certain groups, such as "to", "of the", and other article conglomerations.)

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    ...oh, and Lisp is cool. And so is Haskell :) Definitely been hanging too much with the dark side :). But this all leads me to believe, without doubt, that you're wrong. Speaking of inane deductions, which your post exemplifies! ;P

                                    Paul

                                    The flight towards the light I'll stay in the lava for life Ísland

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                                    Curtis J
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                                    If you want to talk about the dark side, I've been working in Perl lately! So I use what's appropriate for the language. For C++, I use camelCase. For Perl, I use @the_underscores. (I do have to admit - C#? Get away, get away! is my opinion about that language.)

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                                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                      Terry Meritt wrote:

                                      Anyhow it is part of the accepted coding conditions for VB programming.

                                      I admit I didn't have VB in mind when I started the thread :)

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                                      Terry Meritt
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                                      The best thing would be for everyone to follow the accepted coding conventions for the language they are using. Sure makes it a whole lot easier when you have to take over an existing project if the previous programmer did use the coding conventions. I have re-written enough apps in my time because the orginal or previous programmer didn't follow them and it took me extra time to decode.

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                                      • T Terry Meritt

                                        The best thing would be for everyone to follow the accepted coding conventions for the language they are using. Sure makes it a whole lot easier when you have to take over an existing project if the previous programmer did use the coding conventions. I have re-written enough apps in my time because the orginal or previous programmer didn't follow them and it took me extra time to decode.

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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                        Terry Meritt wrote:

                                        The best thing would be for everyone to follow the accepted coding conventions for the language they are using.

                                        Sure. However, for languages such as C there are no accepted coding conventions and the usage varies drastically.

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                                        • H Henry Minute

                                          I would refer the honourable gentleman to the following[^]. Of course, each to his own, but the document above is possibly the reason as far as C# is concerned.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          Henry Minute wrote:

                                          the document above is possibly the reason as far as C# is concerned

                                          It's more that Microsoft language source has always been camel and pascal case (formerly adorned with Hungarian).

                                          Kevin

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