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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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      Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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      Brady Kelly
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      I would choose the first because it would be a greater learning experience. The second may introduce new classes and services, but that kind of thing is more familiar to my sense of code.

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        Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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        Paul Conrad
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        I would probably pick the second one. It is a tough decision since I would find both of them to be interesting. I am more of a behind the scenes type of person, and I am not very strong on the presentation side with UI/graphics.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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          martin_hughes
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          2 for me - despite all the buzz around WPF, I don't find UI stuff all that interesting.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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            Pete OHanlon
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            If 2 said something along the lines of "Model driven task behaviours over none specific communications protocol", then I'll definitely check that one out first.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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              Dan Neely
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              1 I'm not a web dev of any sort.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                None, because both have technologies that I am currently not interested in in the title. Having said that, I am in the "interested in the behind the scenes" group.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                  Henry Minute
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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  Am I right?

                  Only when you agree with me. :-D

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    Neither; I'm simply not interested.

                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                      Douglas Troy
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                      I would certainly choose #1 because it's more relevant to the technologies we're using today.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                        MidwestLimey
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                        2 sounds far more interesting, not that I'd necessarily read either!

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                          bulg
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                          I vote two, then read what you had to say. Maybe I'm minority!? <edit reason="why" > Animating GUIs is the bane of my programming. I would much rather learn how to make something work than make it shiny for whoever's going to use it... though as I am finding out, if it doesn't look good, no one will use it.

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                            J Dunlap
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                            If I chose one at all, I'd choose the second - wt-heck does a 3D wizard control look like, and how does it improve usability? ;P But then again, maybe I'd visit #1 first just to answer that question!

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                              If I chose one at all, I'd choose the second - wt-heck does a 3D wizard control look like, and how does it improve usability? ;P But then again, maybe I'd visit #1 first just to answer that question!

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              J. Dunlap wrote:

                              wt-heck does a 3D wizard control look like

                              Gandalf?

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                If that's all there was I'd stop visiting code project. X|

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                  Shog9 0
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                                  Let's ignore for the moment those of us who will choose or avoid one article or the other based simply on which technologies we're currently (not) using...

                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI

                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies

                                  I think your assertions are largely correct, but perhaps miss the underlying reason... Every article needs a hook. Something to drag you in and keep you there, interested, until you reach the end and vote. For eye-candy articles, that's easy - make a pretty demo and throw some good screenshots in your article. You need a bit more than that to make an article that'll catch and hold folks' attentions, but not a whole lot more... But for a "behind the scenes" article, you don't have that easy hook; instead, you have to tell a story. It need not be an elaborate story; "this was my problem, this is how i solved it, this is how you can solve it too" works quite well most of the time. Some authors are able to take this idea and run with it, including a detailed back story, leisurely character introductions, a thrilling narrative, and an exciting conclusion (in which he shares his completed library/program/solution with the reader). These authors are a joy to read even if you'll never actually deal with the problems they describe, nor use their provided solutions. Sadly, a fair number of authors exhaust their inner raconteur writing the title; with that completed, it's as much as they can do to put together a brief description of what their code does along with maybe an API summary; this is where so many articles on "behind the scenes" tech fail, as they never manage to actually introduce the problem they propose to solve, much less relate it to their readers in any way. Some, sensing the danger, try to find a way of introducing some visual dazzle, perhaps by constructing a fancy demo or some nice charts; but while these can grab our attention, ultimately they (unlike the eye-candy screenshots) are not the point of the article and cannot make up for a lackluster story.

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Neither, they both look like Web crap.

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                      Caslen
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                                      I'd rather go shoe shopping with the Mrs than either of those choices - and you don't know how painfully dull that can be....

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                        Phil Martin
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                                        The end result may be what you summarised in 1 and 2, but for me personally it would be better described as: 1. I prefer working in things that a relevant to me. At the moment, I work totally in the desktop space focusing on visualizing data. 2. I am less interested in things that are less relevant. After examining and playing with WCF/WF I found them overengineered and irrelevant to my space.

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          Quick Question ------------------------------------------------- Let's say you see only the title of two article here at CP. 1. Building and Animating a 3D Wizard control using WPF and Silverlight. 2. Building cross-domain Web proxies in ASP.NET using asynchronous HTTP handlers. Which one are you likely to check first? ---------------------------- My guess is more people will choose 1 no matter how simple or complex it is compared to 2. How correct I am in my assumption? Based on the articles rating here at Code Project and my own personal experience, I have concluded two things: 1. More programmers like to work on building UI and like falshy UI so technologies like WPF and Silverlight appeal to them more. This is based on my observation that any article with flashy UI almost gets rated high. 2. Less programmers are actually interested in "behind the scenes" technologies such as WCF/WF. Am I right?

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                                          My choice would be 2. I detest working on user interfaces and am more interested in "behind the scenes" stuff.

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