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  • L Lost User

    devvvy wrote:

    now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL?

    Are either open source?

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    no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

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      devvvy wrote:

      now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL?

      Are either open source?

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      devvvy
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      no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

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        no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

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        Lost User
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        devvvy wrote:

        no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

        You're not the only person on the planet. Some of the others do give a damn. Sheesh!

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          devvvy wrote:

          no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

          You're not the only person on the planet. Some of the others do give a damn. Sheesh!

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          devvvy
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          sorry I don't give a damn about you too Sheesh :)

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          • P Paul Watson

            Ray Cassick wrote:

            I also ask if people would think it was a good idea for Microsoft to buy a hardware company? Do you think that would be successful

            Best mice and keyboards I ever used were from Microsoft... And who makes the XBox? That works pretty well. Maybe a Microsoft Windows and Microsoft PC strategy could work. Simplify things (price would go up though.) But yeah. I don't see it going well for Sun and Oracle. It is better than IBM + Sun but that isn't saying much.

            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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            Ray Cassick
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            Paul Watson wrote:

            And who makes the XBox? That works pretty well.

            Agreed here, but so they make them or OEM them from another vendor?

            Paul Watson wrote:

            Best mice and keyboards I ever used were from Microsoft...

            You have a good point here, but I think that a few of the people that have suffered through the last round of product defects may have a word here :)

            Paul Watson wrote:

            Maybe a Microsoft Windows and Microsoft PC strategy could work.

            I have always said that Windows would be much more stable if it was designed to run on a dedicated hardware environment, free from having to support all the other vendors stuff, but I am not sure if MS is the company to make that hardware.


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            • P Paul Watson

              Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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              Kevin McFarlane
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              I guessed this might happen after IBM dropped out.

              Kevin

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              • P Paul Watson

                Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Mike Diack
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                It's not just Java's future that worries me - I hope Oracle will continue to support Virtual Box, which apart from the recent version 2.2.0 fiasco (buggy as hell), has otherwise been growing excellently. Mike

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                • D devvvy

                  now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL? MySQL ... function and triggers cannot be recursive temp table cannot be referenced more than once in same query open more than one conn per transaction is not permitted (distrib trans..) ... I thought MySQL is nice in beginning but now thinks its fading away

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                  Fernando A Gomez F
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                  devvvy wrote:

                  now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL?

                  Because both express versions have several limitations. Example given: your databases can't be longer than 4GB.

                  Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela

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                  • F Fernando A Gomez F

                    devvvy wrote:

                    now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL?

                    Because both express versions have several limitations. Example given: your databases can't be longer than 4GB.

                    Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela

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                    devvvy
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                    yes sure, how about function cannot be recursive or no more than one conn can be opened within span of a transaction scope?

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                    • D devvvy

                      no does that matters (until Express aren't free frankly i don't give a damn)

                      dev

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                      Dan Neely
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                      not to us, but zillions of people have drank that koolaid. :rolleyes:

                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                      • D devvvy

                        yes sure, how about function cannot be recursive or no more than one conn can be opened within span of a transaction scope?

                        dev

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                        Fernando A Gomez F
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                        That does not change the fact that you can't use express editions if your database will grow higher than 4GB...

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                        • F Fernando A Gomez F

                          That does not change the fact that you can't use express editions if your database will grow higher than 4GB...

                          Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela

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                          devvvy
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                          yes thinking about it, that's a good point. and with mysql around database there'll always be a database free for all however oracle and M$ decides to price their databases, also keeps database price down since we all need it so much

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                          • F Fernando A Gomez F

                            That does not change the fact that you can't use express editions if your database will grow higher than 4GB...

                            Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela

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                            devvvy
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                            yes thinking about it, that's a good point. and with mysql around database there'll always be a database free for all however oracle and M$ decides to price their databases, also keeps database price down since we all need it so much

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Isn't MySQL open source? I think they'll just have to let it go free. [like that'll happen!!]


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                              Rocky Moore
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                              Open Source... But try out the license, many have fallen trying to figure out if they need to pay a fee or not. Imagine after Oracle gets done with it ;) Just because something is open source, does not mean it is free (just look at Community Server for that example) and it does not mean it will remain free. Licensing can bind your buns :)

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