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  • F Fahad Sadah

    Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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    Programming: the act of creating a list of steps to be followed by a machine. Scripting: subset of Programming, the automation of a task which you might ordinarily have done by manually, and making use of the same tools. Scripting Language: a programming language specifically designed to enable Scripting, often by providing easy programatic access to the same tools used by interactive users.

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    • F Fahad Sadah

      Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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      Stuart Dootson
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      scripting==programming You're giving instructions to the machine - it doesn't matter how it gets there. In fact, one of my favourite languages[^] has both compiled and script-like interfaces. And it's better for it - having a REPL is cool. I wish C++ had one ;P

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      • F Fahad Sadah

        Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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        Chris Losinger
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        to me, a "script" is a program written to run inside another program. scripts manipulate or extend their host program and don't have any use outside of it. a non-script program stands alone. yes, you could say even stand-alone programs are scripts running inside the OS. but i'd say that an OS isn't generally considered to be a "program". it's a tough to say where shell scripts fall given that definition, tho. is the shell a program? yes, but it's also considered to be part of the OS.

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        • F Fahad Sadah

          Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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          I draw the line at scripting. I'm a programmer, not a playwright...

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          • F Fahad Sadah

            Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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            Yusuf
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            Sometimes the line between the two is blurry. The classic definition is if it compiled it is programming and it is scripting if it is interpreted. I like the more basic definition that, if you can the final output file in notepad and clearly you can read it then it is scripting. If what you see in notepad is bunch of boxes and unreadable characters then it is programming ;)

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            • F Fahad Sadah

              Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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              Phil Martin
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              I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, or distinction made. They are the same thing after all.

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                I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, or distinction made. They are the same thing after all.

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                Phil Martin... wrote:

                I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, or distinction made.

                Uh... and just how are we supposed to look down on scripters if we can't be sure who they are? :suss:

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                  Phil Martin... wrote:

                  I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, or distinction made.

                  Uh... and just how are we supposed to look down on scripters if we can't be sure who they are? :suss:

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                  Phil Martin
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                  Well that's easy, just take the same approach as modern policing - just look down at everyone, until they can prove they are a programmer :)

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I draw the line at scripting. I'm a programmer, not a playwright...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Mine varies between music and agriculture. Sometimes I'm a composer, others I'm a composter.

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                    • F Fahad Sadah

                      Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      I'm a programmer regardless of the language I use. I've written millions of lines of C, C++, Pascal, Ada, LISP, FORTRAN, and assembly language. Over the last six months I've written several thousand lines of C#. All easily recognized programming. I've also written a fair amount of VBScript and some wicked batch files, which I still consider programming.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        I draw the line at scripting. I'm a programmer, not a playwright...

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Jerry Hammond
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                        And you don't play well either. :)

                        The world is a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. —Sean O’Casey, Playwright

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                        • F Fahad Sadah

                          Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Yeah, it's pretty blurry now. I think that the only line that can be drawn is at compiled/translated. On the other hand, another feature of scripting languages has been a lack of control structures, so I don't argue with they who consider Perl to be a programming language. I also seem to recall that there were both compilers and translators for BASIC, so which is it? The mention of being compiled to machine language makes we wonder about virtual machines. If you compile a C++ program for processor X, but run it on a virtual machine on processor Y, does that make it a script?

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                          • R Robert Surtees

                            No difference. How it is executed has nothing to do with how it is created.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Therefore the distinction has nothing to do with how it's created. The distinction is in how it's executed.

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                            • F Fahad Sadah

                              Where do you draw the line between Scripting and Programming? There are C interpreters, and PHP can be compiled to byte code, for example. Any ideas?

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                              Scripting is for now, programming for eternity. At least, that's how it should be, an "eternity" usually means maintenance for the next five years.

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                              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                Technically, something that is compiled into byte code is called "semi-compiled". A full compilation means that the resulting object code was compiled into native code. Anything other than that I guess would be scripting or doodling.

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                                Fahad Sadah
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                                As Robert says below, how it is created has nothing to do with how it is executed. There are plenty of languages that can be more than one of: Compiled Semicompiled Interpreted

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                                  Sometimes the line between the two is blurry. The classic definition is if it compiled it is programming and it is scripting if it is interpreted. I like the more basic definition that, if you can the final output file in notepad and clearly you can read it then it is scripting. If what you see in notepad is bunch of boxes and unreadable characters then it is programming ;)

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                                  Fahad Sadah
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                                  There are C interpreters. Does that make C a scripting language?

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