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  • T Todd Smith

    Trollslayer wrote:

    Nothing quite like kicking someone in the teeth instead of adressing issues is there bully boy?

    ;P [^]

    Todd Smith

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    realJSOP
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    That book provides no useful advice. The best defense is a strong and lightning-quick offense. Of course, when you start out from a position of weakness, it's difficult/impossible to regain the high ground. In other words, the OP would have been better off not saying stupid sh*t at the outset.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    • P pseudonym67

      OK Im not going to tell you what you should or shouldn't do that's not my style but I will give you somethings to think about.

      NinaWilliam wrote:

      Currently, I am holding 4 projects

      This is bad not on your part on your managers. It stinks of too much work and not enough programmers and is the quickest way to wear out the programmers. Simply put when you are skipping between projects nothing gets full attention everything is rushed and unfocused there is only one outcome of having this many projects on the go and that is the programmer becomes irritable and bored with the work, any interest in programming begins to fade because the work becomes drudgery and trying to keep to schedules and meet unrealistic requirements.

      NinaWilliam wrote:

      I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5.

      Do you even need to? What is it in your project that requires the upgrade? Or are you simply doing it because it's the latest thing?

      NinaWilliam wrote:

      Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing.

      You probably never will either a lot of stuff in programming languages can be very specialised to specific areas if you dont need it. Get an over view so you know the basics but dont sweat the details until it becomes relevant to your work. There will always you be areas of programming you know little or nothing about, either because you have forgotten it through not using it for so long or because it was never relevant to your work in the first place. A good programmer knows what their weak points are as well as their strong points. I dont mean this as criticism I personally can come up with quite an impressive list of technologies I have worked with and studied but a good web programmer or graphics programmer can lose me in seconds because Ive never worked or studied those areas so my knowledge is basic at best.

      NinaWilliam wrote:

      Should I quit programming because I don’t like it? Please I seek your advice.

      If you've never liked it quit. If you used to like it but are going through a phase then don't. Only you can decide which is which the trick is in working out which is the right decision for you.

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      ToddHileHoffer
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      pseudonym67 wrote:

      If you've never liked it quit. If you used to like it but are going through a phase then don't. Only you can decide which is which the trick is in working out which is the right decision for you.

      I agree with Brad. This is the best advice.

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      • N NinaWilliam

        Hi there, I need your help and advice in this… I have a programming analyst diploma with GPA 3.8. I work as a programmer for 4 years in a medical corporation. I am successful at my work and I get every task given to me done. Currently, I am holding 4 projects. The problem is: I am not interested in programming I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job. I don’t like going to work. I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5. Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing. I find my self interested more in software installing and troubleshooting, Computer maintenance, user support. Should I quit programming because I don’t like it? Please I seek your advice.

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        NinaWilliam wrote:

        I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job. I don’t like going to work

        Newsflash: Most people don't like their jobs... :|

        NinaWilliam wrote:

        I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5. Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing

        Sounds like you feel challenged learning new things, but don't necessarily feel like you're up for that challenge. However, don't kid yourself into believing that you need to know everything about a certain programming discipline in order to do your job. There are things in .NET that you'll probably never use, so I'd say don't worry about learning everything in every version. That's just unrealistic.

        NinaWilliam wrote:

        I find my self interested more in software installing and troubleshooting, Computer maintenance, user support.

        This is highly subjective, and I know some will probably disagree, but I think you're probably going to find this mind-numbingly boring after a while. However, if you'd rather deal with boredom than being challenged and learning new things--whatever floats your boat. Who am I to judge? I'm not trying to put down anyone who does that sort of thing for a living--I'm just saying that you probably won't feel very challenged after a while, and you'll probably quickly reach a point where you stop learning. But, again, whether that's what you're after--only you know the answer to that.

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          Ignore John, he's a thug.

          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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          Thug[^] I am not a thief, not a murderer, and most definitely am not Indian. Please come up with something more precise.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          • N NinaWilliam

            Hi there, I need your help and advice in this… I have a programming analyst diploma with GPA 3.8. I work as a programmer for 4 years in a medical corporation. I am successful at my work and I get every task given to me done. Currently, I am holding 4 projects. The problem is: I am not interested in programming I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job. I don’t like going to work. I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5. Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing. I find my self interested more in software installing and troubleshooting, Computer maintenance, user support. Should I quit programming because I don’t like it? Please I seek your advice.

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            After 4 years of college and then my first assignment I hated it too. I had to debug 10,000 lines of FORTRAN. I was shit canned and rightly so, then took a project doing hardware design. That morphed into FPGA and boolean logic programming, which morphed into c++ and c#, which were all great. After many projects I am stuck with an XML,XSLT front end, SAS backend and am hating life again. But smart phone programming...hmmmm that looks interesting.. time for a change. Don't make hasty decisions about carreer verses niche.... change your niche first and see if it still sucks.

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            • N NinaWilliam

              Hi there, I need your help and advice in this… I have a programming analyst diploma with GPA 3.8. I work as a programmer for 4 years in a medical corporation. I am successful at my work and I get every task given to me done. Currently, I am holding 4 projects. The problem is: I am not interested in programming I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job. I don’t like going to work. I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5. Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing. I find my self interested more in software installing and troubleshooting, Computer maintenance, user support. Should I quit programming because I don’t like it? Please I seek your advice.

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              Snowman58
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              Some people work to make enough money to do the things they enjoy. Others work at jobs they love and money is secondary. But no job is always enjoyable, nor is the money always good enough to work at the jobs we would prefer. You have to decide which category you fall into and make your decision based on how you want to spend your time & money.

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              • R realJSOP

                What the hell is that supposed to mean? He's got a job, which is a damn site more than a lot of other people can say, and here he is, complaining that it's too hard to keep up. IMHO, he should step aside and give someone a chance that can a) do the job, and b) maintain some level of maturity where work ethics are concerned. Someone that doesn't like their job does a terrible job at it (or just mediocre at best). It's people like me that are expected to come in behind someone like that and clean up their mess. I reserve pity for mistreated dogs, not for quitters.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Calm down dear -- it's not that unusual for somebody to not like their job. Anyway, surely it's a good thing that there are people out there creating this mess for you to clean up? Perhaps an alternative career mopping floors beckons for you!

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                  Thug[^] I am not a thief, not a murderer, and most definitely am not Indian. Please come up with something more precise.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  How about "twat"?

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                  • R realJSOP

                    It's been a long week, and the OP's message was inane and pointless.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Caslen
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                    Like most of yours

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                    • D developer6

                      How about "twat"?

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                      Caslen
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                      He's definitely one of those :0

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                      • C Caslen

                        Like most of yours

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                        Caslen wrote:

                        Like most of yours

                        You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

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                        • R Rage

                          Caslen wrote:

                          Like most of yours

                          You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

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                          Caslen
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                          Really?

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                            Really?

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                            realJSOP
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                            Really.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              Really.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Caslen
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                              Nice one! Thats the most intelligent thing you've said today.

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                              • C Caslen

                                Like most of yours

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                                A word of advice: don't get into a pissing contest with JSOP. He pees Alien[^] blood.

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                                  A word of advice: don't get into a pissing contest with JSOP. He pees Alien[^] blood.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;
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                                  Can't be any worse than the Alien bullsh1t he spouts.

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                                  • D developer6

                                    Calm down dear -- it's not that unusual for somebody to not like their job. Anyway, surely it's a good thing that there are people out there creating this mess for you to clean up? Perhaps an alternative career mopping floors beckons for you!

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    I don't care if he hates his job. I care that he thinks he's going to get viable advice from a forum on the internet, more specifically, THIS forum. If he doesn't want to clean floors, I'm sure he could find work sweeping standing water off of sidewalks.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    • D developer6

                                      How about "twat"?

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                                      Hmmm, no... I much prefer "assh*le" or "prick".

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                                      • N NinaWilliam

                                        Hi there, I need your help and advice in this… I have a programming analyst diploma with GPA 3.8. I work as a programmer for 4 years in a medical corporation. I am successful at my work and I get every task given to me done. Currently, I am holding 4 projects. The problem is: I am not interested in programming I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job. I don’t like going to work. I find it very hard to move from .NET framework 1.1 to 2.0 to 3.5. Even if I start reading a programming book or article I don’t really understand every thing. I find my self interested more in software installing and troubleshooting, Computer maintenance, user support. Should I quit programming because I don’t like it? Please I seek your advice.

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                                        NinaWilliam wrote:

                                        The problem is: I am not interested in programming I just do my job because I have to. I don’t feel I love my job.

                                        If that is really true (i.e. you can't determine that there is another cause such as difficulty working with co-workers or problems at home), then I would say you really need to find something else. Maybe you can stay at the same location and switch roles, although that can sometimes pull you back to the original, I started my current job in technical support and have been moved to development and back, and forward, and back... it's hard to get away from what you've done so well when things get tough. My problem is my own and I'm not seeking advice, but I want to caution you on that. Remember, just because you are invested into one thing, does not mean you cannot cut your losses and go on. If something (a project or a career path) is doomed, the sooner you can get out, the less extra resources you sink into it. Others have said that holding 4 projects is bad. I believe that is premature on their parts. While holding 4 projects has a potential to pull you in multiple directions at the same time, it doesn't mean you really are. One project may be waiting on someone else for part of it and you may only really need to be actively working on one or two at a time. It just depends on the specifics, and since you didn't divulge those, you'll have to be the judge.

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                                        • C Caslen

                                          He's definitely one of those :0

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          Having trouble stringing more than a few words together in a sentence?

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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