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  • J Jim Crafton

    I wasn't planning on it. What would it be on? Creating a 3D character? I would assume that to be a bit outside the norm around here.

    hopingToCode wrote:

    Have you used XNA at all?

    Nope. All I know is that it's something for building games on the XBox, right?

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    Phil Martin
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    Jim Crafton wrote:

    Nope. All I know is that it's something for building games on the XBox, right?

    Interestingly, there is more to it. The whole framework is for making games on both XBox and PC using managed code. But the interesting part is at it's core is a managed wrapper for Direct X, which makes writing 3D code from C# a whole lot easier.

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    • J Jim Crafton

      Over the weekend I got Bob ready for rigging and imported into Houdini. Bob in a neutral pose[^] The next step is to set up a rigging "skeleton" to aid in animating him. I have some ideas for what I'd like to do, and I've been studying how to do rigging in Houdini, so hopefully I'll have something to show sometime soon. In the meantime there's some more details here: http://learning3dfromscratch.blogspot.com/2009/04/bob-loves-houdini.html[^]

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      That is looking really good Jim, especially for only recently starting out. Are you happy with the model so far? i.e. proportions, shape and overall bob-ness? And given you've been playing with Houdini for a couple of weeks, how long do you think it would take to re-create the bob model in that, rather than importing? I'm just curious as I'm going to download Houdini shortly and have some 3D fun of my own - something I've not done in years.

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        Excellent! Once you get enough animation stuff down, I say we create a Code Project game with Bob. He has to battle the horrid PlzNow Zombies that are attempting to take over the world by caging all the Code Project hamsters. It's Bob's mission to find and release all the hamsters before it's too late. He has but a single weapon: The Smilie Shooter. Each smilie has different impact/effect. Power-ups include: sheep, cow, beer, flower, etc... Dang, I wish I had more time to do something like this ... that would be a blast.


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        Douglas Troy wrote:

        He has to battle the horrid PlzNow Zombie

        and save the princess from the Experts Exchange Emperor

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        • J Jim Crafton

          I was thinking that was going to be his combined speech/waste output unit. But maybe someone else knows better? All I've got for a reference is the little guy's picture on the front page, which is admittedly pretty sparse...

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          Jim Crafton wrote:

          I was thinking that was going to be his combined speech/waste output unit. But maybe someone else knows better?

          You can't beat the idea of combining speech and crap out of one hole! :laugh:

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            Jim Crafton wrote:

            I was thinking that was going to be his combined speech/waste output unit. But maybe someone else knows better?

            You can't beat the idea of combining speech and crap out of one hole! :laugh:

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            Yep, politicians seem to have been perfecting this for ages!

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            • P Phil Martin

              That is looking really good Jim, especially for only recently starting out. Are you happy with the model so far? i.e. proportions, shape and overall bob-ness? And given you've been playing with Houdini for a couple of weeks, how long do you think it would take to re-create the bob model in that, rather than importing? I'm just curious as I'm going to download Houdini shortly and have some 3D fun of my own - something I've not done in years.

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              Thanks!

              Phil Martin... wrote:

              Are you happy with the model so far? i.e. proportions, shape and overall bob-ness?

              Yeah, more or less. It's not perfect, but given I want 1) something that's fun/amusing to work with 2) something that's got a relatively simple shape 3) relatively few moving parts it's good enough.

              Phil Martin... wrote:

              how long do you think it would take to re-create the bob model in that, rather than importing?

              At this point maybe half a day? There's a couple of parts I think I'd have to experiment a bit to get right, but the basic shape is pretty simple. At some point I will probably redo the model again, this completely in Houdini instead of importing. Houdini rocks, but if you're a 3D newbie like I am be prepared for a learning curve. Check out 3D Buzz for some great tutorials. Also CardanFX has some great tutorials, especially for beginners, all of which are accessible for $20 USD a month.

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                Douglas Troy wrote:

                He has to battle the horrid PlzNow Zombie

                and save the princess from the Experts Exchange Emperor

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                Jim Crafton
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                Can the princess look like Salma Hayak? Damn, I'll definitely have to spend some *serious* time with modeling her...

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                • J Jim Crafton

                  Can the princess look like Salma Hayak? Damn, I'll definitely have to spend some *serious* time with modeling her...

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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  I'll definitely have to spend some *serious* time with modeling her...

                  Um. I should QA that work ... just to be certain the detail levels are accurate ...


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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    I'll definitely have to spend some *serious* time with modeling her...

                    Um. I should QA that work ... just to be certain the detail levels are accurate ...


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                    Not a problem. This will probably require several iterations, to properly determine the correct subdivision levels, correct geometric proportions, etc. That won't be a problem will it? :rolleyes:

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      Not a problem. This will probably require several iterations, to properly determine the correct subdivision levels, correct geometric proportions, etc. That won't be a problem will it? :rolleyes:

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                      [Doug wiping drool off chin] No! No. No problem.


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                        [Doug wiping drool off chin] No! No. No problem.


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                        Down boy, down! Don't go and hump your desk! Think of how everyone else will laugh at you!

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                          Down boy, down! Don't go and hump your desk! Think of how everyone else will laugh at you!

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                          Ok, when someone says they've got "wood", that's not what they mean ...


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                            Ok, when someone says they've got "wood", that's not what they mean ...


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                            Dude, you're on your own now... Somewhere, someone's kid sister just screamed out in terror!

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                              Dude, you're on your own now... Somewhere, someone's kid sister just screamed out in terror!

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                              Jim Crafton wrote:

                              omewhere, someone's kid sister just screamed out in terror!

                              Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Because mention of desk humping wasn't an issue, but what I said was ... :rolleyes:


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                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                omewhere, someone's kid sister just screamed out in terror!

                                Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Because mention of desk humping wasn't an issue, but what I said was ... :rolleyes:


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                                Jim Crafton
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                                Yo, baby, don't get all pedantic on my ass now!

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                                  Yo, baby, don't get all pedantic on my ass now!

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                                  Douglas Troy
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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  don't get all pedantic on my ass now!

                                  I would never do anything like that to your ass, you're just sick. :-\

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                                    Over the weekend I got Bob ready for rigging and imported into Houdini. Bob in a neutral pose[^] The next step is to set up a rigging "skeleton" to aid in animating him. I have some ideas for what I'd like to do, and I've been studying how to do rigging in Houdini, so hopefully I'll have something to show sometime soon. In the meantime there's some more details here: http://learning3dfromscratch.blogspot.com/2009/04/bob-loves-houdini.html[^]

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                                    Maybe you should check out "trueSpace". You can make programs for it in Python, and since M$ took it over, JScript and VBScript, and it'll take you about 30 minutes to figure out how to create "Bob", the ugliest mascot in the history of the internet.

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                                      Maybe you should check out "trueSpace". You can make programs for it in Python, and since M$ took it over, JScript and VBScript, and it'll take you about 30 minutes to figure out how to create "Bob", the ugliest mascot in the history of the internet.

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                                      Jim Crafton
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                                      Yeah, trueSpace is OK, but I don't really like it that much. Compared to Houdini, it's kids stuff :)

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                                        I think my heads going to explode.

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        I think my heads going to explode.

                                        How many have you got? ;P

                                        Cheers, Vıkram.

                                        Carpe Diem.

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                                          I was thinking that was going to be his combined speech/waste output unit. But maybe someone else knows better? All I've got for a reference is the little guy's picture on the front page, which is admittedly pretty sparse...

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                                          combined speech/waste output unit

                                          X| You should get thrown out for saying this. Well, not seriously. ;)

                                          Cheers, Vıkram.

                                          Carpe Diem.

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