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VS2008 is utter rubbish.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
I never had a problem with it when working in something other than a WPF project, but in this case, I agree.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I don't know if there's a fix in here somewhere, but I remember that back in the good old days of VC++ 6, it would occasionally get squirrely, and the fix was to delete the .ncb file and restart. The ncb would get regenerated, and then life was good again. Apparently there was a periodic corruption in the file which the IDE didn't take kindly to. Given that Visual Studio is actually Visual Basic with some extras shoved in, I don't know if there's a parallel here, but it might be worth looking into.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
I think the modern-day equivalent is to delete the SUO file. I'm gonna try it when I get to work today...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Deleting the suo file usually fixes this ... for some time
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Deleting the suo file usually fixes this ... for some time
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Dario Solera wrote:
I bet that is a stack overflow
I bet it's a pain in the ass.
Dario Solera wrote:
Don't you have a copy of Expression Blend?
Not at work, but this isn't a designer problem.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Not at work, but this isn't a designer problem.
Yep. Its bad engineering.
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The inevitable result of a product with no competition.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
[voice of the vultures from the jungle book] Now don't start that again! I actually agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Well, no, only the WPF designer. The whole thing is very stable in my experience. Maybe I'm just lucky.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Deleting the suo file usually fixes this ... for some time
That worked for now, but I'm sure I'll have to do it again in an hour or so. BTW, I've only seen reports of this problem on Vista64 machines (coincidentally, that's what I have on this box).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I think 'crashes' is the wrong term here. 'Runs and Hides' is probably better.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Had I mentioned yet that Win Forms is much nicer? ;P
Wout
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The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
That's what happens as you get older. :)
The world is a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. —Sean O’Casey, Playwright
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I think the modern-day equivalent is to delete the SUO file. I'm gonna try it when I get to work today...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Sounds about right. As I recall, it was a big honking binary file, so this may do the trick. Let me know if it works. Thus far I've been able to avoid WPF, but as Yoda would say, "Always in motion is the future." (A tip of the Force to our UK brethren celebrating Star Wars day).
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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I think 'crashes' is the wrong term here. 'Runs and Hides' is probably better.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I thought that was the Developer reaction upon hearing that WPF just entered the room...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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VS2008 is utter rubbish.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
VS2008 is utter rubbish.
Really? I use it only for native code debugging and that part works just fine.
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Well, no, only the WPF designer. The whole thing is very stable in my experience. Maybe I'm just lucky.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
I must be lucky too. I do get crashes occassionally in the Windows Forms designer. Apart from that, it's steady eddy.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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The inevitable result of a product with no competition.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Heh. Hence your rant the other week. You have a point.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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Had I mentioned yet that Win Forms is much nicer? ;P
Wout
I wouldn't say that. We have had WinForms designer issues since VS2003. It's slightly better in 2008, but we still get designer crashes.
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I don't know if there's a fix in here somewhere, but I remember that back in the good old days of VC++ 6, it would occasionally get squirrely, and the fix was to delete the .ncb file and restart. The ncb would get regenerated, and then life was good again. Apparently there was a periodic corruption in the file which the IDE didn't take kindly to. Given that Visual Studio is actually Visual Basic with some extras shoved in, I don't know if there's a parallel here, but it might be worth looking into.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
When I was still at Sonardyne we had real issues with stability of the VC6 IDE - it quite simply doesn't handle large codebases (96 projects at the time IIRC) well, and would crash something like 50% of the time you opened the workspace. Deleting the .ncb file didn't help - we reckon the flaw was in the Class View itself.
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When I was still at Sonardyne we had real issues with stability of the VC6 IDE - it quite simply doesn't handle large codebases (96 projects at the time IIRC) well, and would crash something like 50% of the time you opened the workspace. Deleting the .ncb file didn't help - we reckon the flaw was in the Class View itself.
Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"
Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system.
I can well imagine. We're up to 26 projects in our main codebase now, so I'm crossing my fingers we don't run into any of those sort of problems here!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow.
Now that sounds like a plan... :evil grin:
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