SoCal has been high for years...
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... but it is now to be legal (And Taxed) See Here[^] What is the problem? Amsterdam has no Drugs problem, you go in, buy and use. No Problem.
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
To be honest Amsterdam does have a few problems with drugs. However, most of these stem from the drugs tourism industry where people from countries where consumption is prohibited pile into coffee / smart shops and consume enormous quantities of things they don't understand and unsurprisingly can't handle the outcome. The locals and the vast majority of responsible visitors do appear to be able handle their highs much better than many drinkers in Britain's town centres on a Saturday night though. Russell
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To be honest Amsterdam does have a few problems with drugs. However, most of these stem from the drugs tourism industry where people from countries where consumption is prohibited pile into coffee / smart shops and consume enormous quantities of things they don't understand and unsurprisingly can't handle the outcome. The locals and the vast majority of responsible visitors do appear to be able handle their highs much better than many drinkers in Britain's town centres on a Saturday night though. Russell
I went to Amsterdam a couple of years ago, and I tell you what, it's a damn site nicer than any UK town centre I've been in. The streets were clean, there were regular police patrols and the people were very friendly. Didn't see a single incident, it was strange (yet very nice) just to chill with a few buddies in a coffee shop, playing pool and "relaxing", instead of chugging beers and dancing like a twat :)
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
modified on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:27 AM
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... but it is now to be legal (And Taxed) See Here[^] What is the problem? Amsterdam has no Drugs problem, you go in, buy and use. No Problem.
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
It will also help in the fight on drug's as now it's legal no need to go undr ground to get it and so will help with crime.
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I went to Amsterdam a couple of years ago, and I tell you what, it's a damn site nicer than any UK town centre I've been in. The streets were clean, there were regular police patrols and the people were very friendly. Didn't see a single incident, it was strange (yet very nice) just to chill with a few buddies in a coffee shop, playing pool and "relaxing", instead of chugging beers and dancing like a twat :)
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
modified on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:27 AM
Phannon wrote:
chugging bears
Too much information. :~ At least you weren't in Moscow.
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
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It will also help in the fight on drug's as now it's legal no need to go undr ground to get it and so will help with crime.
Indeed, in fact if all drugs were legalised and taxed, this would free up billions of £$€'s around the world. Firstly there would not be the cost of policing, second the tax raised itself and thirdly the saving in other areas of crime. I know that a recent estimate said the over a 3rd of all crime was drug related. I think all drugs should be made available, as it would also act as a cull on the stupid!
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
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Phannon wrote:
chugging bears
Too much information. :~ At least you weren't in Moscow.
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
Chugging Mules perhaps?
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
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Phannon wrote:
chugging bears
Too much information. :~ At least you weren't in Moscow.
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
Damn :laugh: It's been a long day already, battery mysteriously packed in on my car overnight. Fantastic job by the AA as usual though, got to me in 15 minutes and had me moving straight away. Now on top of the MOT that's scheduled today, a new feckin' battery is on the cards. Methinks I'm gonna take up Mr Darling on his scrappage scheme...
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
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Indeed, in fact if all drugs were legalised and taxed, this would free up billions of £$€'s around the world. Firstly there would not be the cost of policing, second the tax raised itself and thirdly the saving in other areas of crime. I know that a recent estimate said the over a 3rd of all crime was drug related. I think all drugs should be made available, as it would also act as a cull on the stupid!
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
we where having a debate like this at work last week. and I think I agree with you but you have to put warnings on everything! It just feels wrong to me although maybe that is because of the way I was brought up!
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Chugging Mules perhaps?
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
Is Chugging anything like Muffing?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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we where having a debate like this at work last week. and I think I agree with you but you have to put warnings on everything! It just feels wrong to me although maybe that is because of the way I was brought up!
Remove the warnings from everything and let the problems of humanity sort themselves out. If they can't figure out that drugs in extreme quantities are bad for them, let them find out the hard way. Oh, and don't sponsor the health care for those that continue to abuse drugs either. (Sorry, the cynic in me gets a little rampant when it comes to wasting tax money on people who continually do stupid things).
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Indeed, in fact if all drugs were legalised and taxed, this would free up billions of £$€'s around the world. Firstly there would not be the cost of policing, second the tax raised itself and thirdly the saving in other areas of crime. I know that a recent estimate said the over a 3rd of all crime was drug related. I think all drugs should be made available, as it would also act as a cull on the stupid!
------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
I think all drugs should be made available, as it would also act as a cull on the stupid!
I think that might well work pretty much everywhere except in the UK. As the world leaders in binge drinking/alcohol abuse it would surely be incumbent upon us to aim for top spot in the drug overdose/abuse tables. To the detriment of town centres nationwide.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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we where having a debate like this at work last week. and I think I agree with you but you have to put warnings on everything! It just feels wrong to me although maybe that is because of the way I was brought up!
We need fewer warnings on things not more. The more people are allowed to take responsibility for their own actions the better. People should be allowed to make their own choices in life and should be expected to accept the consequences of those actions. You shouldn't need a label to understand that there might be side-effects to any activity and it should be up to the individual concerned to take steps to ascertain whether he or she perceives the benefits to outweigh the risks.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I think all drugs should be made available, as it would also act as a cull on the stupid!
I think that might well work pretty much everywhere except in the UK. As the world leaders in binge drinking/alcohol abuse it would surely be incumbent upon us to aim for top spot in the drug overdose/abuse tables. To the detriment of town centres nationwide.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
From what I gather it's not as though drugs aren't pretty much freely available in the UK already. Add to which the fact that dealers don't have things like last orders and time at the bar and you'll probably find that legalising the stuff would make it less available rather than more.