486 HELL
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Let me guess... Showing your father-in-law the DELL website? (Dad.. it is time.) (i feel for you man.)
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Great story. Reminds me of some nightmare in my own past. Wouldn't it be easier to buy a low end machine for around $600.00? It seems like it would pay for itself in saved aggravation. Marc
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Let me guess... Showing your father-in-law the DELL website? (Dad.. it is time.) (i feel for you man.)
Tried, but he got this for free and he doesn't use it enough to want to spend money. I even considered giving him MY lowest computer ( a P II 300 from memory ), but I doubt he would use it enough to justify it. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Great story. Reminds me of some nightmare in my own past. Wouldn't it be easier to buy a low end machine for around $600.00? It seems like it would pay for itself in saved aggravation. Marc
Easier, yes. Likely to happen ? No. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Tried, but he got this for free and he doesn't use it enough to want to spend money. I even considered giving him MY lowest computer ( a P II 300 from memory ), but I doubt he would use it enough to justify it. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
My inlaws get our old PCs so we run into the same thing. Sometimes it is too bad you can't pass 'em off on the old "hmmm.. it seems to be a hardware problem...you better call I.T.". Best of luck to you.
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 Nothing says love (of your wife) like going thru hell for her father. Stand tall, be proud and... ...hope he remembers you in his will!!
Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap
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Christian Graus wrote: Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 Nothing says love (of your wife) like going thru hell for her father. Stand tall, be proud and... ...hope he remembers you in his will!!
Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap
Mike Mullikin wrote: hope he remembers you in his will!! Do you think if he had money, he'd be using a 486 ? :P Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Last year I was forced to service an 486 upgraded from 286. W95 were started after 12.5 min. Word started after next 8 minutes. You can surely imagine its users joy when I managed to make it unserviceable and he got a celeron :). Pavel Sonork 100.15206
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Mike Mullikin wrote: hope he remembers you in his will!! Do you think if he had money, he'd be using a 486 ? :P Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Tried, but he got this for free and he doesn't use it enough to want to spend money. I even considered giving him MY lowest computer ( a P II 300 from memory ), but I doubt he would use it enough to justify it. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I even considered giving him MY lowest computer ( a P II 300 from memory ), but I doubt he would use it enough to justify it. I would find it very easy to justify based on your time to help him out. Even if his time does not justify it your time does. Accidentally droping it in the sink while you are cleaning off the case could also work:) "If I won't be myself, who will?" Alfred Hitchcock
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Taking him to the computer store?
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
WFW 311? STL is a religeon. Enquiries to Reverend Christian Graus
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Right now I am trying to finish an XML wrapper in C# ( writing documentation, testing, then writing an article for it ), trying to start a bug tracker in ASP.NET ( I know the world does not need one, but my work could use one, and it's a good excuse to learn ASP.NET before starting my security cam project ), an Asteroids game using SVG ( this will form the basis of a CP article I am hoping ), and generally set up my web pages and get MSDE talking nicely to ASP.NET. I'm also trying to complete 'Army Men Sarge' via an N64 emulator. So what did I do last night ? Reinstall W98 on my father in laws 486 DX 4-66 There ought to be a law. At the end I found there was so little HDD space left that I could not install office and the machine had trouble using virtual memory. So it was beyond slow. I have an old 1 gig drive I decided to give him. The box has only ONE IDE slot !!! So I need to reinstall on the one gig drive and take the 520 MB one out. But having pulled the box open, it has a little speaker on the motherboard which whstles non-stop and the keyboard seems jammed on, so if I move the mouse over something it gets selected, over and over again. I HATE desktop cases. Guess what I am doing tonight ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
You can try to upgrade his hardware with a babyAT mainboard (I guess you can find a K6 or PII for 50$) but it could be difficult to fit it inside a non standard case (like some PCs by IBM or compaq). Or you can go back to dos and use NewDeal: http://www.breadbox.com/ I downloaded a demo version some time ago and it was impressive on my old 486-100 (now I use it to test windows CE, so I never bought the full version of newdeal). -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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Christian Graus wrote: Do you think if he had money, he'd be using a 486 ? For your sake, I was hoping he was just the "thrifty" type. :-D
Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap
The word you are hunting for is "cheap".
"Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
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Mike Mullikin wrote: hope he remembers you in his will!! Do you think if he had money, he'd be using a 486 ? :P Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002