How much RAM you have?
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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I have 4 Gb of RAM for 32-bit box. Next machine for me will be a 64-bit with at least 8Gb of RAM. As you afford to upgrade, should you upgrade? To 8Gb definitely! Please check your motherboard specifications to check if it can go to 12 Gb. Also there may be an O/A limit as I recall that Home Vista is limited to 8Gb, whereas Pro Vista will go to 16Gb.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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I've got 4 Gigs of RAM in my VAIO Z 13. To support to 2.53 C2D processor and NVIDIA 9300 GPU it takes that much...
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week :-D , and with this build (i7 920 @ 3.2, 6GB 10666, Asus Gene II (capable of 24GB)) its the first time i actually like vista, before this i tried vista x86 (pre-SP1) with 3Gbs, and i freaking hated it so much i switched back to XP... the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing... and i still wonder where the hell goes so much ram... but as the saying says, "when in doubt blame norton" so i blame thee norton (eventhou i dont have any norton product installed ;P )
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
8G on each of two Vista x64 dev machines. I have never seen any single program use anything like that, but being dev machines, we frequently have two or three VMs (I can remember having 5 open once) running to check platform compatibility. At 1G each VM, that 8 Gig comes in very handy...
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
2GB on my work machine with Vista which is nowhere near enough as I spend a lot of time waiting for the HD light to go out and things to start working again. 1.5 GB on my home machine with XP which is plenty even though I actually use it for more memory intensive programs.
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leppie wrote:
Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
That raises an interesting question I've been thinking about for a while. Given the amount of RAM that a lot of people have, what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
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I run Vista x64 on a box with 8GB of RAM and I've turned off the swap file. Hey I've lived with XPs 2GB address space for applications all these years without too much trouble, so 8GB should be enough. No problems so far, machine feels snappy. Nice to be able to switch users without hitting a swap file.
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I'm running ultimate, so 128 GB here I come! (I wish! :))
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Me too :D
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
12GB on my new i7 920 machine. To be honest, I think its a bit overkill really as I've never seen less than 5GB free! even when running multiple copies of VS 2008, SQL server, VM's, office apps, browsers etc. I have disabled my swap file as it was huge! and have never ran into trouble. I have 8GB on my server (Quad Core) and 4GB on my Core 2 Duo laptop, all running on 64bit windows of course. The only reason I went to 12GB really was that my previous workstation had 8GB, and the motherboards was going to take either 6GB or 12GB and I wasnt going to end up with less on the new machine now was I :) Anyway, memory is so cheap nowadays. and more is always better (as long as you are on x64!) I remember paying 80 quid for 32MB years ago and I only paid slightly more for 6GB! Oh, and did I mention I have 4 monitors too :)
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
32-bit OS has limitation of 4GB RAM. BIOS will start the CPU in long (64-bit) mode and manages the RAM. Almost all 4GB will be in lower 4GB address space (there is ACPI, memory mapped device and SMM memory that will consume ~1MB of address space so you can access 3.99GB memory). If you install 12GB memory and x86 OS you will have 12GB memory, but only ~4GB will be accessible. x64 OS has limitation 64 exabytes (64*pow(10,60) bytes) address space, so you will no problem to map even 100GB of memory. Windows allows most x86 programs to start on WOWx64 emulator without problems, so WOW emulator is MS product that rox :) I have 2GB RAM installed - 1.75GB available and 256MB shared to video card.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
We're running Windows 2008 Server x64 with 4Gb on our main development machines. We plan to upgrade them to 8Gb soon. On our production and staging servers we have exactly the same OS with 16Gb. So, no, 12Gb is not overkill at all... have as much as you can :) Take care about the memories you buy though... don't use unknown brand memories just because they're cheap. Buy good quality memories, like the ones from Kingston, never had any problems. If we care about the brand of our CPU, Graphic Card, HD's because they give us more confidence, why do we keep neglecting the RAM sticks brand? (don't know if it's your case, but this is true in most cases). Cheers! Alex
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12GB on my new i7 920 machine. To be honest, I think its a bit overkill really as I've never seen less than 5GB free! even when running multiple copies of VS 2008, SQL server, VM's, office apps, browsers etc. I have disabled my swap file as it was huge! and have never ran into trouble. I have 8GB on my server (Quad Core) and 4GB on my Core 2 Duo laptop, all running on 64bit windows of course. The only reason I went to 12GB really was that my previous workstation had 8GB, and the motherboards was going to take either 6GB or 12GB and I wasnt going to end up with less on the new machine now was I :) Anyway, memory is so cheap nowadays. and more is always better (as long as you are on x64!) I remember paying 80 quid for 32MB years ago and I only paid slightly more for 6GB! Oh, and did I mention I have 4 monitors too :)
Only 2 GB on both work and home machines. I've been using all may machines without the swap file for years. It seems to be enough for VS, a loaded Firefox and some other apps. Using lots of application is a pleasure since everything is in RAM, the hard is very quiet and task switching has no latencies. Unfortunately, 2G is not enough for an intensive use and when the entire memory is used applications start to disappear (YMess, Process Explorer...). I use MemInfo to let me know when the limit is about to be reached. I ran into 2 apps that required the swap (would not start without it) : an older Photoshop and Age of Empires :) Since the size of the internal memory is no longer an issue I recommend loosing the swap.
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Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
I *think* 32-bit Windows Server 2003 can use more.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
baudwalker wrote:
Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb
That's not correct. Win32 can use about 3gb. It depends on the hardware you're using and how greedy your drivers are. I've seen people tweak their way to as much as 3.5gb free. My crap acer laptop's mobo driver grabs a full gig and mostly doesn't use it. Gaming machines with two high end video cards will often end up with only 2gb and change because every byte on the card takes a byte of the address space. PAE will let you use more than 3gb on a server, but since apps need to be written especially for it only a handful of server apps can benefit. Even then, many of them are just going with 64bit only since it's a much simpler programming model.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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Jim Crafton wrote:
what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
I will let you, but it gives a warning that it should be at least the size of the RAM. This will only be used in case of BSOD for a full memory dump. If you can live with the mini dump (that is 64kb I think), you can probably get away with a 1mb, not sure if it will take 0.
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((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))I use Vista Business x64 with 4 GiB of RAM and NO paging file. Didin't get any problems for over a year now.
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6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week :-D , and with this build (i7 920 @ 3.2, 6GB 10666, Asus Gene II (capable of 24GB)) its the first time i actually like vista, before this i tried vista x86 (pre-SP1) with 3Gbs, and i freaking hated it so much i switched back to XP... the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing... and i still wonder where the hell goes so much ram... but as the saying says, "when in doubt blame norton" so i blame thee norton (eventhou i dont have any norton product installed ;P )
Falcon_007 wrote:
6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week
Lucky dog!
Falcon_007 wrote:
the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing
See Jeff Atwood's excellent Why Does Vista Use All My Memory?[^]
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