What a Catastrophe
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Chinese GM[^] Who would buy such a thing? What a waste of taxpayer money. We paid to give Americans jobs to China. Wasn't the whole deal to protect American workers? What a scam.
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Chinese GM[^] Who would buy such a thing? What a waste of taxpayer money. We paid to give Americans jobs to China. Wasn't the whole deal to protect American workers? What a scam.
Intel 4004 wrote:
What a scam.
hey, don't blame me. I voted for the best man, Sarah Palin.
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Intel 4004 wrote:
What a scam.
hey, don't blame me. I voted for the best man, Sarah Palin.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Chinese GM[^] Who would buy such a thing? What a waste of taxpayer money. We paid to give Americans jobs to China. Wasn't the whole deal to protect American workers? What a scam.
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Do you just wait a week and then report something someone else has already posted?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Do you just wait a week and then report something someone else has already posted?
I know alot is posted about GM, but its a big issue. GM is a prime example of very large amounts of taxpayer dollars being used in a way that was exactly the opposite of what Omama pronised to do with it. He said there would be a catastrophe if we didn't push all this stimulus crap as hard as we can so nobody would have a chance to read it and lean what its really about. He said jobs would be lost, and this stimulus was to save and create jobs. It saves the jobs of the executives and take away regular folk jobs in America and gives them to China and Mexico. Sure it saves and creates jobs, but nobody read the fine print. Nobody would listen because they were all hyped up about Obama the savior.
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Oakman wrote:
Do you just wait a week and then report something someone else has already posted?
I know alot is posted about GM, but its a big issue. GM is a prime example of very large amounts of taxpayer dollars being used in a way that was exactly the opposite of what Omama pronised to do with it. He said there would be a catastrophe if we didn't push all this stimulus crap as hard as we can so nobody would have a chance to read it and lean what its really about. He said jobs would be lost, and this stimulus was to save and create jobs. It saves the jobs of the executives and take away regular folk jobs in America and gives them to China and Mexico. Sure it saves and creates jobs, but nobody read the fine print. Nobody would listen because they were all hyped up about Obama the savior.
Intel 4004 wrote:
GM is a prime example of very large amounts of taxpayer dollars being used in a way that was exactly the opposite of what Omama pronised to do with it.
Actually, GM is getting a miniscule amount when compared to what has been given to AIG; Fannie Mae; Well Fargo: etc.
Intel 4004 wrote:
He said jobs would be lost, and this stimulus was to save and create jobs. It saves the jobs of the executives and take away regular folk jobs in America and gives them to China and Mexico.
They are not getting money from the stimulus package but from the troubled asset relief program which was created last fall at the request of Bush and his Treasury Secretary, Paulson.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Chinese GM[^] Who would buy such a thing? What a waste of taxpayer money. We paid to give Americans jobs to China. Wasn't the whole deal to protect American workers? What a scam.
Old news but, you would have to ignored the last two decades of business trends to not see this coming. This really has nothing to do with Obama, Bush, taxpayers or, the state of the economy. It's about commodization in a global market. This stuff was happening in a growing economy and will continue in a retracting one. You want this stuff to stop happening, then you need to convince the consumers to stop paying for this or you need to pass some laws that make this difficult to do. In the end, it is all about consumer motivation.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Intel 4004 wrote:
GM is a prime example of very large amounts of taxpayer dollars being used in a way that was exactly the opposite of what Omama pronised to do with it.
Actually, GM is getting a miniscule amount when compared to what has been given to AIG; Fannie Mae; Well Fargo: etc.
Intel 4004 wrote:
He said jobs would be lost, and this stimulus was to save and create jobs. It saves the jobs of the executives and take away regular folk jobs in America and gives them to China and Mexico.
They are not getting money from the stimulus package but from the troubled asset relief program which was created last fall at the request of Bush and his Treasury Secretary, Paulson.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Actually, GM is getting a miniscule amount when compared to what has been given to AIG; Fannie Mae; Well Fargo: etc.
Its Obama's outright lie and it it a very significant about of money. He can hide behind the banks since most people know next to nothing about banking and economics, You would be surprised to find out how many people doesn't know what their APR's of there loans or even know what an APR is.
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Old news but, you would have to ignored the last two decades of business trends to not see this coming. This really has nothing to do with Obama, Bush, taxpayers or, the state of the economy. It's about commodization in a global market. This stuff was happening in a growing economy and will continue in a retracting one. You want this stuff to stop happening, then you need to convince the consumers to stop paying for this or you need to pass some laws that make this difficult to do. In the end, it is all about consumer motivation.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Intel 4004 wrote:
I don't care about the status of the company or their product, Its what Obama said and done along with the rest of the gang.
So if Bush had done the same thing, you'd be all for it?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
I don't care about the status of the company or their product, Its what Obama said and done along with the rest of the gang.
So if Bush had done the same thing, you'd be all for it?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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From the article:
The reports, which GM will neither confirm nor deny, could mean trouble because GM is supported by $15.4 billion in U.S. government loans, largely due to the Obama administration's desire to preserve the company's 90,000 U.S. jobs.
I am not sure to understand, but by doing so, GM would go agains Obama's will to preserver American jobs, isn't it?
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Liar.
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? Or, are you happy being apart of the "me too" group of former neocon cheerleaders? Why weren't you bitching about this stuff when it was happening during the previous administrations? Why do you suddenly care? Why aren't you bitching about the layabouts in the midwest who receive public money to not grow crops? Why weren't you complaining when the federal government under the last administration did all it could to curtail states rights (look up CA vs EPA)? Why didn't you care when public money was spent to build stadiums so that a few people could profit and a lot of people could lose their homes and in turn get good minimum wage jobs selling popcorn? But now you and your ilk care? Now the substance is suddenly more important than the symbolism? Why? You and the rest of the republican cheerleaders have completely lost the plot. You've stopped thinking for yourselves, you accept what you are told and you happily, knowingly, partake in doublethink.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? Or, are you happy being apart of the "me too" group of former neocon cheerleaders? Why weren't you bitching about this stuff when it was happening during the previous administrations? Why do you suddenly care? Why aren't you bitching about the layabouts in the midwest who receive public money to not grow crops? Why weren't you complaining when the federal government under the last administration did all it could to curtail states rights (look up CA vs EPA)? Why didn't you care when public money was spent to build stadiums so that a few people could profit and a lot of people could lose their homes and in turn get good minimum wage jobs selling popcorn? But now you and your ilk care? Now the substance is suddenly more important than the symbolism? Why? You and the rest of the republican cheerleaders have completely lost the plot. You've stopped thinking for yourselves, you accept what you are told and you happily, knowingly, partake in doublethink.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
Why weren't you bitching about this stuff when it was happening during the previous administrations? Sometimes I have other things to do you know? You know what I mean jackass?
Chris Austin wrote:
Why aren't you bitching about the layabouts in the midwest who receive public money to not grow crops? Why weren't you complaining .....
Just because I never posted about it that doesn't mean I think its good or insignificant.
Chris Austin wrote:
Now the substance is suddenly more important than the symbolism?
Oh okay symbolism is more important than substance, Riigghtt... :rolleyes:
Chris Austin wrote:
Why?
A trojan horse is a perfect example of why substance is more important than symbolism.
Chris Austin wrote:
You and the rest of the republican cheerleaders have completely lost the plot.
Perhaps I have, perhaps I'm not a republican in a sense, I don't go along with something because it is labeled republican.
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Chris Austin wrote:
Why weren't you bitching about this stuff when it was happening during the previous administrations? Sometimes I have other things to do you know? You know what I mean jackass?
Chris Austin wrote:
Why aren't you bitching about the layabouts in the midwest who receive public money to not grow crops? Why weren't you complaining .....
Just because I never posted about it that doesn't mean I think its good or insignificant.
Chris Austin wrote:
Now the substance is suddenly more important than the symbolism?
Oh okay symbolism is more important than substance, Riigghtt... :rolleyes:
Chris Austin wrote:
Why?
A trojan horse is a perfect example of why substance is more important than symbolism.
Chris Austin wrote:
You and the rest of the republican cheerleaders have completely lost the plot.
Perhaps I have, perhaps I'm not a republican in a sense, I don't go along with something because it is labeled republican.
Intel 4004 wrote:
perhaps I'm not a republican in a sense
You're not alone. A lot of Republicans don't have any sense. Democrats, too.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
perhaps I'm not a republican in a sense
You're not alone. A lot of Republicans don't have any sense. Democrats, too.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
Obama has got to go, no doubt about it.
He will... in about 8 years. :laugh:
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