Another Indian student stabbed in Australia
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I'd hafta say that this is the key. Americans probably have many different places they post programming questions to. I know that I rarely even think of the CP forums for a programming question. Most of the time when I post a programming question it is on a primarily english speaking message board. On the other hand, CP is more of an international community so it is bound to get more questions from international users. In addition, americans have the benefit of not having the laguage barrier to work through so they seem more intelligent. It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely. For example: "I need to know ..." as opposed to "I'm a noob, please point me in the direction to learn about ..." The latter doesn't exactly translate well to other languages...
A very good point. In my opininion folks are just doing it for the fun of it and what sucks is that they have a cart blunche.
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
I am not sure if this is attack have racial background, is it?
No idea. One of the colleague told about this during a chat.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap.
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
No comments.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes.
At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
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d@nish wrote:
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
No one in the civilized wold deserve bad treayment for asking a question. There is no such thing as bad question. I disagree with you on this point.
d@nish wrote:
Bassam Saoud wrote: I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes. At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
Hell Ya !
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes.
You won't from me. You make a good point, and I hadn't noticed it to be honest. I treat it as a question, and try not to look at the profile page
Computafreak wrote:
You won't from me. You make a good point, and I hadn't noticed it to be honest. I treat it as a question, and try not to look at the profile page
Thanks - thats the way it should be
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I think it may be that many programmers in America dislike Indian programmers because they work for less money. And quite often they don't seem to know what they are doing... Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
I agree with you - Laws should protect local candidates over foriegn. Thats a given..
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I am not sure if this is attack have racial background, is it? Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums. No, I am not indian, but I am just saying what I always notice:) I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes.
I answer dumb questions as fairly as I can. If poster appears to have tried, and I can help, I do. If googling would give a reasonable answer, or the poster gives no indication of having tried anything, I suggest googling. The only time I check anyones profile is if they are very amusing/informative or they are obviously a serial wuckfit. If I had been asked to guess at your location based on your name I would have guessed Middle-East(ish), which shows how much I know, :), you could as easily be in US or Europe. My point is, and I think it applies to most CPians, that one cannot estimate nationality/location from screenname and so to answer in a racist way, involves more effort than it is worth. With the recent boom in IT work in India and the Far-East there are thousands of new people looking for short-cuts by asking dumb questions here. They mostly get short shrift, and quite right too. I don't think the programming forums were intended to be a tutorial for the basics, and newer members should refrain from treating them like one.
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
A recent survey showed that over 50% of CP'ians are from India. So it's could also follow that a beginner question has over a 50% chance of being posted by someone from India. BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
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Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is no such thing as stupid questions.
You must be new to CP. Many of the questions I would consider stupid aren't due to language barriers but laziness where a quick google search would get them their answer. But it's obvious when someone doesn't want to put any effort into learning and just wants an urgent answer for their homework which is due the next day.
Todd Smith
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I'd hafta say that this is the key. Americans probably have many different places they post programming questions to. I know that I rarely even think of the CP forums for a programming question. Most of the time when I post a programming question it is on a primarily english speaking message board. On the other hand, CP is more of an international community so it is bound to get more questions from international users. In addition, americans have the benefit of not having the laguage barrier to work through so they seem more intelligent. It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely. For example: "I need to know ..." as opposed to "I'm a noob, please point me in the direction to learn about ..." The latter doesn't exactly translate well to other languages...
I think we need a codeproject.in
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
A recent survey showed that over 50% of CP'ians are from India. So it's could also follow that a beginner question has over a 50% chance of being posted by someone from India. BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
I'm with you on that one.
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d@nish wrote:
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
No one in the civilized wold deserve bad treayment for asking a question. There is no such thing as bad question. I disagree with you on this point.
d@nish wrote:
Bassam Saoud wrote: I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes. At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
Hell Ya !
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I'd hafta say that this is the key. Americans probably have many different places they post programming questions to. I know that I rarely even think of the CP forums for a programming question. Most of the time when I post a programming question it is on a primarily english speaking message board. On the other hand, CP is more of an international community so it is bound to get more questions from international users. In addition, americans have the benefit of not having the laguage barrier to work through so they seem more intelligent. It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely. For example: "I need to know ..." as opposed to "I'm a noob, please point me in the direction to learn about ..." The latter doesn't exactly translate well to other languages...
kinar wrote:
It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely.
I think that's a huge factor. +5 IMHO, it's one of the big reasons why i'm in favor of allowing other users to edit questions - cleaning up this sort of unintentional rudeness would go a long way toward improving the general attitude of the forums, IMHO...
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kinar wrote:
It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely.
I think that's a huge factor. +5 IMHO, it's one of the big reasons why i'm in favor of allowing other users to edit questions - cleaning up this sort of unintentional rudeness would go a long way toward improving the general attitude of the forums, IMHO...
I think its a great idea - unless abused:(
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is no such thing as bad question.
Ah... this formerly-mythical beast has been captured - would you like to visit the zoo?
common Shog !
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Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
That's just it though - who does that? Who here would even think of doing that? Heck, i stay clear of restaurants where i can't understand the menu... I don't walk in, ignore the menu, and loudly demand coffee and apple pie! ...i reserve that sort of behavior for places where i could, if necessary, read the menu...
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I think its a great idea - unless abused:(
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
That's just it though - who does that? Who here would even think of doing that? Heck, i stay clear of restaurants where i can't understand the menu... I don't walk in, ignore the menu, and loudly demand coffee and apple pie! ...i reserve that sort of behavior for places where i could, if necessary, read the menu...
ah you are one of those :) On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it... I hope you get the moral of this story
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
I think its a great idea - unless abused
You'll have abuse no matter what you do. I mean, that's sort of the whole topic of this sub-thread, right? ;-)
hehehehe
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ah you are one of those :) On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it... I hope you get the moral of this story
Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
Shog9 wrote:
and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner.
yeah as long as you don't go in a mexican restaurant and shout illegal immigrant !