Another Indian student stabbed in Australia
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
A recent survey showed that over 50% of CP'ians are from India. So it's could also follow that a beginner question has over a 50% chance of being posted by someone from India. BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
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Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is no such thing as stupid questions.
You must be new to CP. Many of the questions I would consider stupid aren't due to language barriers but laziness where a quick google search would get them their answer. But it's obvious when someone doesn't want to put any effort into learning and just wants an urgent answer for their homework which is due the next day.
Todd Smith
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I'd hafta say that this is the key. Americans probably have many different places they post programming questions to. I know that I rarely even think of the CP forums for a programming question. Most of the time when I post a programming question it is on a primarily english speaking message board. On the other hand, CP is more of an international community so it is bound to get more questions from international users. In addition, americans have the benefit of not having the laguage barrier to work through so they seem more intelligent. It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely. For example: "I need to know ..." as opposed to "I'm a noob, please point me in the direction to learn about ..." The latter doesn't exactly translate well to other languages...
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
A recent survey showed that over 50% of CP'ians are from India. So it's could also follow that a beginner question has over a 50% chance of being posted by someone from India. BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
I'm with you on that one.
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d@nish wrote:
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
No one in the civilized wold deserve bad treayment for asking a question. There is no such thing as bad question. I disagree with you on this point.
d@nish wrote:
Bassam Saoud wrote: I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes. At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
Hell Ya !
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Don't get me wrong, lots of American / European programmers are clueless as well, they just don't post as much on this board.
I'd hafta say that this is the key. Americans probably have many different places they post programming questions to. I know that I rarely even think of the CP forums for a programming question. Most of the time when I post a programming question it is on a primarily english speaking message board. On the other hand, CP is more of an international community so it is bound to get more questions from international users. In addition, americans have the benefit of not having the laguage barrier to work through so they seem more intelligent. It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely. For example: "I need to know ..." as opposed to "I'm a noob, please point me in the direction to learn about ..." The latter doesn't exactly translate well to other languages...
kinar wrote:
It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely.
I think that's a huge factor. +5 IMHO, it's one of the big reasons why i'm in favor of allowing other users to edit questions - cleaning up this sort of unintentional rudeness would go a long way toward improving the general attitude of the forums, IMHO...
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kinar wrote:
It is a LOT easier to just bluntly ask what you need to know in another language rather than having the benefit of wording it politely.
I think that's a huge factor. +5 IMHO, it's one of the big reasons why i'm in favor of allowing other users to edit questions - cleaning up this sort of unintentional rudeness would go a long way toward improving the general attitude of the forums, IMHO...
I think its a great idea - unless abused:(
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is no such thing as bad question.
Ah... this formerly-mythical beast has been captured - would you like to visit the zoo?
common Shog !
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Todd Smith wrote:
BTW I'm prejudice against all people that post stupid questions.
There is no such thing as stupid questions. There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
That's just it though - who does that? Who here would even think of doing that? Heck, i stay clear of restaurants where i can't understand the menu... I don't walk in, ignore the menu, and loudly demand coffee and apple pie! ...i reserve that sort of behavior for places where i could, if necessary, read the menu...
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I think its a great idea - unless abused:(
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is a language barrier that the other 50% doesnt take into account. try posting a question in an indian forum and lets see how you will do.
That's just it though - who does that? Who here would even think of doing that? Heck, i stay clear of restaurants where i can't understand the menu... I don't walk in, ignore the menu, and loudly demand coffee and apple pie! ...i reserve that sort of behavior for places where i could, if necessary, read the menu...
ah you are one of those :) On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it... I hope you get the moral of this story
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
I think its a great idea - unless abused
You'll have abuse no matter what you do. I mean, that's sort of the whole topic of this sub-thread, right? ;-)
hehehehe
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ah you are one of those :) On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it... I hope you get the moral of this story
Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
On the contrary, i for once never eaten mexican food before comming to the states. I was once encouraged to try it and i did, and i absolutely love it...
Many of the Mexican ex-pats here have learned enough of the local language to get by... and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner. ;-)
Shog9 wrote:
and we've adopted the rest of the differences, in our usual ham-fisted manner.
yeah as long as you don't go in a mexican restaurant and shout illegal immigrant !
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d@nish wrote:
Is the condition of Indians in Australia really this bad?
I doubt it - even in Sydney none of the Indian guys we work with has ever mentioned a problem. As with any city, there's such a thing as being in the wrong place at the wrong time - on your own, late at night, ANYONE, regardless of race, becomes a target for scumbags !! (*1) Would I turn it into a racist thing if the same happened to me in India - lets say Mumbai ? no .. I'd be just another fool tourist who flashed some money/jewelery around and attracted the unhealthy attention of individuals, or who went to possibly an area of town that wasnt healthy. Does this paper equally report incidents of foreign (regardless of skin colour/race) stabbings in India ? If they dont then they could be construed as being just as racist as the poor chap in the article. Its just way too easy to cite race as a reason, sorry (*1) being of robust stature with a carefully calculated 'dont f#ck with me' demeanor means this usually doesnt apply to me, but I still don't push my luck 'g'
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d@nish wrote:
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
No one in the civilized wold deserve bad treayment for asking a question. There is no such thing as bad question. I disagree with you on this point.
d@nish wrote:
Bassam Saoud wrote: I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes. At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
Hell Ya !
Bassam Saoud wrote:
There is no such thing as bad question. I disagree with you on this point.
There is no such thing as a bad question. There is lazy delivery, and not attempting to use available resources prior to bothering people, even when finding it involves such hard processes as read further down the page you are asking question on, or in using google. It is never the question that is bad, it is the intent that can be bad. If I hear someone asking in a way that makes me think they are trying to learn, I will spend a lot of time helping ( trying to, as my explanations are not always clear). I have known short bus people who want to learn, and are willing to stretch to learn basics, who I will give time to. I have seen PhD candidates who are just looking for the answer, and are pinging me because they think their time is more important than mine, so they won't research it. I have worked with guys who just want you to do they're work for them because they are just dead lazy. Just give me the one who is willing to work and learn, who is trying to do something they are interested in. Even if they are not the sharpest knife, they will cut the best. /rant
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
I am not sure if this is attack have racial background, is it?
No idea. One of the colleague told about this during a chat.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap.
There are many messages, regardless of nationality, that deserve this kind of treatment.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums.
No comments.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes.
At least not from me. It is your opinion/perception and you have all the right in this world to have one.
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I am not sure if this is attack have racial background, is it? Just a note: The condition of Indians/(Asians maybe?) in CP always gets my attention. If you look at the messages, if any ask a beginner question and their profile shows that they are from india, Many heroes here would slap them with go Check google or I will not do your homeowrk/ Stop taking our jobs! kind of crap. It seems if you are indian , you need to ask a PHD level of questions to survive in these forums. No, I am not indian, but I am just saying what I always notice:) I am sure , my post will be getting 1 votes.
I don't think its Indians alone who get slapped for not doing their own homework. However it may appear this way because firstly a disproportionate number of Comp Sci students are Indian and secondly because their command of English is generally better than say Chinese, Vietnamese or Indonesians students, then they have the confidence to actually ask questions.
Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur.(Pliny)