Borland Chalanges .NET
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
Well, it certainly explains why Borland has been so quiet about support for .NET. It also explains why they haven't bothered to fix their existing products, such as C++ builder. They released one patch almost a year ago which only addressed compiler issues and not the overly buggy IDE. Frankly, I don't trust Borland to be able to pull off something like this.
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
I like that term, "standards-based Web application development". Isn't everything "standards-based" now? All a company has to do is invent a new standard, and poof, their work is now standards-based. I too doubt that Borland has the capabilities to compete with .net.
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
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Standard WEB Service! Who is continuing to believe there are universal standard WEB Service when it is coming out from one company? Please do not tell me Java is! When SUN still hold the control of such language and when Java dominated in the developers community, please do not expect SUN will give up this big cake and let all the competitors join the game!
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
I thought there was a deal between MS and Borland that Borland would support the Latest MS technology in their products ever since MS invested in Borland to help them out of financial trouble. At the time, .NET hadn't been named, but it will be interesting, especially with the Linux version of Delphi coming out soon. Cheers, Peter
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
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I thought there was a deal between MS and Borland that Borland would support the Latest MS technology in their products ever since MS invested in Borland to help them out of financial trouble. At the time, .NET hadn't been named, but it will be interesting, especially with the Linux version of Delphi coming out soon. Cheers, Peter
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
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I think .NET could need some competitors. I do not like the "everything MS does is good for us" attitude.
Agreed! I have unfortunely work for quit a number of platforms before and included AS/400, S/36, Novell, Unix and Windows NT. Every vendors try to claim they are the best! As a poor developer, how do face such facts and especially decision always put on hands of other people and they usually do not have enough technical knowledge to do the judgement. When I used RPG/400, IBM people told me it is the fastest and most reliable machine in the world! Fast and reliable? Maybe, but anyone think about it - every parts include hardware, os, database (DB2/400) and language is coming from one single company! They have totally control on it, want to complaint lacking of feature of RPG and poor performance of SQL accessing ? No way, waiting for next release (usually still do not have your long waiting feature)! Why SUN do not want to 100% open Java's language controling rights? All of us know the fact! Only competition is the truth on comercial world and is the only health way to let company to improve their product! I enjoy programming with Microsoft products but I also like Borland's Delphi. What do you think how IBM price their dead OS/2 product is Windows and Windows NT never came out? ;P ;P
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
I struggled to use Borland C++ Builder as my primary development environment for over two years. I'd never, ever waste my time on an amatuerish, bullshit wannabe real development environment from those clowns again. An IDE so bug-infested as to be unusable, a class library so bloated that a program consisting of one blank form produces an .exe of over 400KB..... Oh yeah, Borland is serious stuff for serious developers.
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I struggled to use Borland C++ Builder as my primary development environment for over two years. I'd never, ever waste my time on an amatuerish, bullshit wannabe real development environment from those clowns again. An IDE so bug-infested as to be unusable, a class library so bloated that a program consisting of one blank form produces an .exe of over 400KB..... Oh yeah, Borland is serious stuff for serious developers.
IMO, Borland began their slide when they decided to make Pascal (Delphi) the basis for their original RAD development environment instead of C++. In the meantime, MS Visual C++ and VB caught up by the time Borland got around to putting out Builder. Delphi was a complete waste of time on Borland's part. Who programmed in Pascal except students? Did they think it would ever become a major dev tool? Ridiculous. Now Borland is a bit player in a market they used to dominate and they don't even have enough resources to play in the game any more. Such a shame. I used to love their tools.
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IMO, Borland began their slide when they decided to make Pascal (Delphi) the basis for their original RAD development environment instead of C++. In the meantime, MS Visual C++ and VB caught up by the time Borland got around to putting out Builder. Delphi was a complete waste of time on Borland's part. Who programmed in Pascal except students? Did they think it would ever become a major dev tool? Ridiculous. Now Borland is a bit player in a market they used to dominate and they don't even have enough resources to play in the game any more. Such a shame. I used to love their tools.
I cannot see why C++ is more superier than other languages! It's only because C++ is chosen to be a de facto standard in Unix world and such is a histrorical facts! Languages are just some way to express the flow of logic and model the system's architecture. It has important thing to express such elements and idea in a clean and self document way. Whether it is Java, Basic, Pascal ,C++ and SmallTalk, they are just similar way to express the programming logic. What really make they appear so different are how vendors implement them. Say, Microsoft decided not to included Pointer in Visual Basic's implementation because they target VB as a RAD tools for common programmers, it don't relate to the laguage itself. If for some days, Micosoft change it's idea, they can add into it in any time! Like VB.NET, they decide to add Threading and OO into the language. When we talk about C#, I do not see much different from Java if we look at it's language syntax. When we compare these two languages, we target how Sun and Micosoft implements their languages, how much feature they add into the langauges, how good the performance they provided us for the Runtime engine (compare the .NET ILE runtime and Java VM), how stable for the development and runtime environment. Remember the previous survey - Does programmers know more than one languages better? My answer is yes! At least they truely understand language is just language, there are more things in software development! Here I want to post one question - Does people speak English are better Mathematican than people speak German?
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I cannot see why C++ is more superier than other languages! It's only because C++ is chosen to be a de facto standard in Unix world and such is a histrorical facts! Languages are just some way to express the flow of logic and model the system's architecture. It has important thing to express such elements and idea in a clean and self document way. Whether it is Java, Basic, Pascal ,C++ and SmallTalk, they are just similar way to express the programming logic. What really make they appear so different are how vendors implement them. Say, Microsoft decided not to included Pointer in Visual Basic's implementation because they target VB as a RAD tools for common programmers, it don't relate to the laguage itself. If for some days, Micosoft change it's idea, they can add into it in any time! Like VB.NET, they decide to add Threading and OO into the language. When we talk about C#, I do not see much different from Java if we look at it's language syntax. When we compare these two languages, we target how Sun and Micosoft implements their languages, how much feature they add into the langauges, how good the performance they provided us for the Runtime engine (compare the .NET ILE runtime and Java VM), how stable for the development and runtime environment. Remember the previous survey - Does programmers know more than one languages better? My answer is yes! At least they truely understand language is just language, there are more things in software development! Here I want to post one question - Does people speak English are better Mathematican than people speak German?
C++Builder is a bit slow comparing to Delphi in building the projects - what it takes 1 sec compiling in delphi, it takes aprox. 10 secs in Builder - and why? Because in compiling the units, C++ Builder has to produce .OBJ's which are way more dificult to build than the Delphi Units (the .DCU files) due to the far more complex (and way way more POWERFUL) syntax of C++. So my point is that C++ should have been the language on which VCL framework should have been built and not definitely Pascal (even considering the more time consuming builds). Choosing Pascal was one BIG mistake but choosing C++ in that time they'll always have to live with the direct competition of visual c++ i guess... What i think that Borland should have done was to take C++Builder to produce the VCL components and Delphi to use them! Just that simple... Hope one day Chris dedicates one section of his site to C++Builder... It's a great product and a great tool to partner with Visual C++. :)
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I like that term, "standards-based Web application development". Isn't everything "standards-based" now? All a company has to do is invent a new standard, and poof, their work is now standards-based. I too doubt that Borland has the capabilities to compete with .net.
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"Within the next few weeks, Borland hopes to dilute the dominance of Microsoft's mind share in setting the course for Web services. While Microsoft's .Net development tools slog through a surprisingly volatile beta program, Borland will unveil in May a services-oriented tool kit that could unleash a surge of standards-based Web application deployment." Read the complete article on eWeek: http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2712635,00.html What do ya think?
Hmm, well considering Microsoft hired away Borland's top talent to develop .Net, I guess .Net could be considered a Borland product anyway... Blah!