IT Books - WPF / WCF
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I have read the following books (cover to cover) : 1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 4. WPF by Chris Sells (The first book on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3. Now coming to WCF:- 1. Programming WCF by Juwal Lowy 2. Essential WCF I will recommend 2 over 1. Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose. My style of reading is to read fast just to get an overview of a topic. Then when I use the tech in real life and I have a problem then I refer to the book again. At this time I am usually able to identify where a particular topic was covered in the book. So the above recommendations are based on my style which may not match yours.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 3. WPF by Chris Sells (The first books on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3.
Oooh, i see what you did there... :suss: :-\
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 3. WPF by Chris Sells (The first books on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3.
Oooh, i see what you did there... :suss: :-\
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Well Adam Nathan wrote such a good book that it is impossible for anyone to beat it. Not even Chris Anderson who architected WPF succeeded in it. And BTW Sells wrote foreword for Anderson's book.
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Hello, Hopefully, soon I'll have more free time than in the past few months, therefore, I've decided it's time to buy myself few books and learn some technologies, that because of lack of a time, I haven't had chance to master (or at least, to learn them enough :) ). This time, it's time for WPF and WCF, therefore I'd like to ask for some assistance in chosing right books. After some googling and reading some reviews on Amazon (also - visiting message boards, but topics that I've found are pretty old, and I believe something could change in this manner) I've figured out that the best choices would be books from: Unleashed series (WPF Unleashed by Adam Nathan - I've heard it's a great book). Pro series (Pro WPF/WCF) Programming WPF/WCF or Essential WPF/WCF. I've always thought that it's worth to buy at least 2 books for each aspect, because I like to read about the same things from different perspectives, it's easier to understand many things that way, but 4 books for WPF, and 4 books for WCF, I guess that's too much, at least for now :). Do you have any opinions on those? As for now, I'm thinking about getting Unleashed WPF, as I've heard it's the best choice for learning and Pro WPF, to have some sort of a reference book always on my desk. And as for WCF books, I don't have any clue which ones would be better. Also, my experience with WPF/WCF is near to 0, opposed to C#, which I'm using since .NET Framework 1.0, and I know it "pretty well". Thanks in advance.
In our offices we have two books for WCF, (the general feeling is that these two cover everything you need to know). In order they are: 1) Learning WCF - Michele Leroux Bustamante (O'Reilly publishing). 2) Programming WCF Services, 2nd Edition - Juval Lowy (O'Reilly publishing). Yes, Juval Lowy's book is detailed, and possibly a bit verbose for starting with, but in addition to the detailed WCF information, it does come with his Service Model Extensions utilities which simplify a lot of the process of WCF development.
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I have read the following books (cover to cover) : 1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 4. WPF by Chris Sells (The first book on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3. Now coming to WCF:- 1. Programming WCF by Juwal Lowy 2. Essential WCF I will recommend 2 over 1. Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose. My style of reading is to read fast just to get an overview of a topic. Then when I use the tech in real life and I have a problem then I refer to the book again. At this time I am usually able to identify where a particular topic was covered in the book. So the above recommendations are based on my style which may not match yours.
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Namaste (or Vannacum), and Thanks, Sri Rama : this kind of comparison is very useful. best, Bill
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Well Adam Nathan wrote such a good book that it is impossible for anyone to beat it. Not even Chris Anderson who architected WPF succeeded in it. And BTW Sells wrote foreword for Anderson's book.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Not even Chris Anderson who architected WPF succeeded in it.
God kills a puppy, a lamb, a tortoise and a baby seal somewhere, when someone uses that term. :(
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Not even Chris Anderson who architected WPF succeeded in it.
God kills a puppy, a lamb, a tortoise and a baby seal somewhere, when someone uses that term. :(
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
It's a real word. What it means is that the architect was sacrificed and buried in the concrete foundations of the building where the WPF team lives. It's a much more macho environment at the Campus than you'd think. Imagine Nerds meets Goodfellas, with Steve Ballmer doing the Joe Pesci bit "You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little ----ed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ----in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?"
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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It's a real word. What it means is that the architect was sacrificed and buried in the concrete foundations of the building where the WPF team lives. It's a much more macho environment at the Campus than you'd think. Imagine Nerds meets Goodfellas, with Steve Ballmer doing the Joe Pesci bit "You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little ----ed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ----in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?"
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Pete, my comment was a deadpan. Probably a very bad attempt at humor. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Hello, Hopefully, soon I'll have more free time than in the past few months, therefore, I've decided it's time to buy myself few books and learn some technologies, that because of lack of a time, I haven't had chance to master (or at least, to learn them enough :) ). This time, it's time for WPF and WCF, therefore I'd like to ask for some assistance in chosing right books. After some googling and reading some reviews on Amazon (also - visiting message boards, but topics that I've found are pretty old, and I believe something could change in this manner) I've figured out that the best choices would be books from: Unleashed series (WPF Unleashed by Adam Nathan - I've heard it's a great book). Pro series (Pro WPF/WCF) Programming WPF/WCF or Essential WPF/WCF. I've always thought that it's worth to buy at least 2 books for each aspect, because I like to read about the same things from different perspectives, it's easier to understand many things that way, but 4 books for WPF, and 4 books for WCF, I guess that's too much, at least for now :). Do you have any opinions on those? As for now, I'm thinking about getting Unleashed WPF, as I've heard it's the best choice for learning and Pro WPF, to have some sort of a reference book always on my desk. And as for WCF books, I don't have any clue which ones would be better. Also, my experience with WPF/WCF is near to 0, opposed to C#, which I'm using since .NET Framework 1.0, and I know it "pretty well". Thanks in advance.
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Pete, my comment was a deadpan. Probably a very bad attempt at humor. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Pete, my comment was a deadpan. Probably a very bad attempt at humor
So was mine. Obviously mine was wide of the mark as well. Ho hum.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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I have read the following books (cover to cover) : 1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 4. WPF by Chris Sells (The first book on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3. Now coming to WCF:- 1. Programming WCF by Juwal Lowy 2. Essential WCF I will recommend 2 over 1. Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose. My style of reading is to read fast just to get an overview of a topic. Then when I use the tech in real life and I have a problem then I refer to the book again. At this time I am usually able to identify where a particular topic was covered in the book. So the above recommendations are based on my style which may not match yours.
modified on Sunday, June 7, 2009 10:29 PM
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Pete, my comment was a deadpan. Probably a very bad attempt at humor
So was mine. Obviously mine was wide of the mark as well. Ho hum.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Great minds and all that... :-\
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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I have read the following books (cover to cover) : 1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 4. WPF by Chris Sells (The first book on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3. Now coming to WCF:- 1. Programming WCF by Juwal Lowy 2. Essential WCF I will recommend 2 over 1. Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose. My style of reading is to read fast just to get an overview of a topic. Then when I use the tech in real life and I have a problem then I refer to the book again. At this time I am usually able to identify where a particular topic was covered in the book. So the above recommendations are based on my style which may not match yours.
modified on Sunday, June 7, 2009 10:29 PM
Thank you for your recommendations. I think that I've missed 3. WPF position earlier, but I've checked it, and, just like you, maby people find it really useful, so I'll definitively check it out. As for style of reading, I think we have the same style of learning ;). After I get an overall knowledge, enough to start using some technology / language I just code in it, and use books as references, so I can always update my knowledge, when I have some lacks, on the other hand tough, I just like reading, so often I read whole book from 1st page to the last just for fun of it :).
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Hello, Hopefully, soon I'll have more free time than in the past few months, therefore, I've decided it's time to buy myself few books and learn some technologies, that because of lack of a time, I haven't had chance to master (or at least, to learn them enough :) ). This time, it's time for WPF and WCF, therefore I'd like to ask for some assistance in chosing right books. After some googling and reading some reviews on Amazon (also - visiting message boards, but topics that I've found are pretty old, and I believe something could change in this manner) I've figured out that the best choices would be books from: Unleashed series (WPF Unleashed by Adam Nathan - I've heard it's a great book). Pro series (Pro WPF/WCF) Programming WPF/WCF or Essential WPF/WCF. I've always thought that it's worth to buy at least 2 books for each aspect, because I like to read about the same things from different perspectives, it's easier to understand many things that way, but 4 books for WPF, and 4 books for WCF, I guess that's too much, at least for now :). Do you have any opinions on those? As for now, I'm thinking about getting Unleashed WPF, as I've heard it's the best choice for learning and Pro WPF, to have some sort of a reference book always on my desk. And as for WCF books, I don't have any clue which ones would be better. Also, my experience with WPF/WCF is near to 0, opposed to C#, which I'm using since .NET Framework 1.0, and I know it "pretty well". Thanks in advance.
For learning WCF, this one is pretty good: Learning WCF by Michele Bustamante[^] Should check it out. Regards, Fábio
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Hello, Hopefully, soon I'll have more free time than in the past few months, therefore, I've decided it's time to buy myself few books and learn some technologies, that because of lack of a time, I haven't had chance to master (or at least, to learn them enough :) ). This time, it's time for WPF and WCF, therefore I'd like to ask for some assistance in chosing right books. After some googling and reading some reviews on Amazon (also - visiting message boards, but topics that I've found are pretty old, and I believe something could change in this manner) I've figured out that the best choices would be books from: Unleashed series (WPF Unleashed by Adam Nathan - I've heard it's a great book). Pro series (Pro WPF/WCF) Programming WPF/WCF or Essential WPF/WCF. I've always thought that it's worth to buy at least 2 books for each aspect, because I like to read about the same things from different perspectives, it's easier to understand many things that way, but 4 books for WPF, and 4 books for WCF, I guess that's too much, at least for now :). Do you have any opinions on those? As for now, I'm thinking about getting Unleashed WPF, as I've heard it's the best choice for learning and Pro WPF, to have some sort of a reference book always on my desk. And as for WCF books, I don't have any clue which ones would be better. Also, my experience with WPF/WCF is near to 0, opposed to C#, which I'm using since .NET Framework 1.0, and I know it "pretty well". Thanks in advance.
Books are good Pezold's Applications = Code + Markup (http://www.charlespetzold.com/wpf/) is good. One thing to realize about WPF is that its like trying to drive nails with your palms ... it works really well until you need to go into something modestly hard, at which point you palms can become very bloody. It's actually a bunch of mini-languages gobbed together via XML syntax with no discernable logical structure (other than what is manditory for XML). The learning curve goes straight up then curves back on itself so the more you know the more likely you are to plummet to your death upon the sharp rumble below. It's so very strange, it seems that the hard stuff can be easy but the easy stuff takes hours to figure out. I'm hoping that next version of WPF will be better (cleaner) since they used it in VS, I'm pretty sure that no one actually tried to write anything useful in this version :-) But d*mn it does demo well
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In our offices we have two books for WCF, (the general feeling is that these two cover everything you need to know). In order they are: 1) Learning WCF - Michele Leroux Bustamante (O'Reilly publishing). 2) Programming WCF Services, 2nd Edition - Juval Lowy (O'Reilly publishing). Yes, Juval Lowy's book is detailed, and possibly a bit verbose for starting with, but in addition to the detailed WCF information, it does come with his Service Model Extensions utilities which simplify a lot of the process of WCF development.
I thought the Lowy book was good and I was able to quickly use the info on configuration to start building apps, but once I understood WCF, I felt this book was good at showing how WCF is organized, and how to customize the services: Inside Windows Communication Foundation By Justin Smith I did not use the Lowy extensions in my apps, but found the tools useful while learning.
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I have read the following books (cover to cover) : 1. WPF Adam Nathan (Great book) 2. Essential WPF by Chris Anderson (If you have read 1 you don't need it IMHO but I started with this book) 3. WPF in Action (I reviewed this in initial stages and it turned out to be good) 4. WPF by Chris Sells (The first book on WPF I ever read). If choice is 2 books I will say go with 1 and 3. Now coming to WCF:- 1. Programming WCF by Juwal Lowy 2. Essential WCF I will recommend 2 over 1. Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose. My style of reading is to read fast just to get an overview of a topic. Then when I use the tech in real life and I have a problem then I refer to the book again. At this time I am usually able to identify where a particular topic was covered in the book. So the above recommendations are based on my style which may not match yours.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Juwal's book is too detailed and verbose.
I agree. It's probably useful when you want the detail but it's difficult to read and doesn't explain things very well. After doing a WCF contract with that book as an aid I went back to basics and worked through chapter 1 of Learning WCF, written by Michele Bustamante who also works at iDesign. Very well presented. I assume the rest of the book is similar. I saw the advance buzz on Essential WCF and it looked worth having. If I get the chance to get back into WCF (unemployed for months at the moment :( ) I may give it a try.
Kevin
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For learning WCF, this one is pretty good: Learning WCF by Michele Bustamante[^] Should check it out. Regards, Fábio
I agree based on working through her online chapter 1. I don't have the book though.
Kevin
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Hello, Hopefully, soon I'll have more free time than in the past few months, therefore, I've decided it's time to buy myself few books and learn some technologies, that because of lack of a time, I haven't had chance to master (or at least, to learn them enough :) ). This time, it's time for WPF and WCF, therefore I'd like to ask for some assistance in chosing right books. After some googling and reading some reviews on Amazon (also - visiting message boards, but topics that I've found are pretty old, and I believe something could change in this manner) I've figured out that the best choices would be books from: Unleashed series (WPF Unleashed by Adam Nathan - I've heard it's a great book). Pro series (Pro WPF/WCF) Programming WPF/WCF or Essential WPF/WCF. I've always thought that it's worth to buy at least 2 books for each aspect, because I like to read about the same things from different perspectives, it's easier to understand many things that way, but 4 books for WPF, and 4 books for WCF, I guess that's too much, at least for now :). Do you have any opinions on those? As for now, I'm thinking about getting Unleashed WPF, as I've heard it's the best choice for learning and Pro WPF, to have some sort of a reference book always on my desk. And as for WCF books, I don't have any clue which ones would be better. Also, my experience with WPF/WCF is near to 0, opposed to C#, which I'm using since .NET Framework 1.0, and I know it "pretty well". Thanks in advance.
I very much recommend using Learning WCF - Michele Leroux Bustamante (O'Reilly publishing) to start with. The labs in the book walk you through the various parts and really help in your understanding. Then, go to Juval Lowy's book. Also, a local Jr College is giving a course in WCF this summer. Look to http://www.foothill.fhda.edu/schedule/schedule.php, select Computer Information Systems (CIS), Select the summer 2009 quarter, and look to CIS19L. There is an online cours available. They use Juval Lowy's book.