Google auto-update sucks
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The only thing I've ever found useful on the google toolbar that I don't get out of the browser is the page rank. Some of our clients like to know their page rank, and they can use this feature quickly and with a minimum of effort.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
The only thing I've ever found useful on the google toolbar that I don't get out of the browser is the page rank
That's about the only thing on the toolbar that is of zero use to me! There are plenty of things on the toolbar that you don't get out of the browser but maybe they are low on your list of priorities.
Kevin
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Graham Shanks wrote:
Because my company is stuck on IE6
X| Ask them to wake up and smell the coffee. OTOH, I'm aware that at some places we cannot make decisions of this sort and the ones who can make these decisions are too dumb to do anything that's worth.
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Ask them to wake up and smell the coffee
Part of the problem is that many companies have intranet apps. that don't work in IE7+ and they won't or can't update them.
Kevin
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I use the bookmarking feature built into the browser (and use foxmarks sometimes).
I think it is a well known feature, just that it does not go with me to my work place and back.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
You can get a list of latest CP articles as an RSS feed.
Why does it become a problem if you get it right on a toolbar?
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Gmail can be accessed without a toolbar too.
Yes, again well known. I talking a quick list of recent mails - right there on my toolbar along side the CP new article list.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Searching wikipedia, CP, internet, etc., can be done without a toolbar.
Of course, yes. Just same as we can work with VS.NET without any of the addins. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)
Kevin
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I've used Googler[^] since long before "browser helpers" became the latest way to spam. Simple and clean. On the first computer I used it on, it took up the same space as a shortcut (one allocation unit), so I put the program itself in the start-up menu.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Looks interesting - I'll try it out
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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Graham Shanks wrote:
autofill
One of the best features.
Graham Shanks wrote:
access your bookmarks from any computer
Another one of the best features.
Graham Shanks wrote:
store my credit card details
I never use that.
Graham Shanks wrote:
I just want to be able to get to google search quickly - that's it, nothing more
So why do you use the toolbar? Why have it installed at all?:confused: You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you? (I do still use the Google Toolbar because I like the two features mentioned above plus a few more.)
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you?
Yes - nuff said?
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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Simple solution - uninstall it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)
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Mark Wallace wrote:
I thought I was the only one! Were we separated at birth, or something?
Quite possible, if you're 26 too! :-D
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
I'm a few years past that, but there's a time-difference (I'm at GMT+1), so that would explain it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The auto-update facility for Google Toolbar is really annoying me. Version 6 of the toolbar does not play nicely with my company proxy server (the proxy server complains about badly formed queries). However version 5 works fine for me. And they have a link on their nicely minimal google toolbar home page for previous versions. However they have an auto-update feature that they are quite proud of - they have it in their list of features: Auto Update There is no need to check for new versions of Google Toolbar; updates are installed automatically, so you will always have the latest and greatest version. But you cannot turn it off! WTF! :mad: Why on earth provide previous versions if you cannot turn off the auto-update? Why would google engineers think that this was a good idea? Do they think forcing me to uninstall the auto-updated toolbar, reinstalling the previous version and then reconfiguring it would lead to an enjoyable user experience? As for the latest and greatest - it definitely isn't the greatest because it doesn't work for me. And don't even get me started on the bloat that they add with every version: autofill - meh, don't use web forms enough to make it worthwhile; access your bookmarks from any computer - nope, don't need that either; store my credit card details - whoa, not even with an encrypted hard disk and strong password. Why doesn't their software follow their minimalist theme to their web site? I just want to be able to get to google search quickly - that's it, nothing more. If anyone is interested, the way to turn off the auto-update, apparently, is to add the following line to your hosts file:
127.0.0.1 toolbar.google.com
Thank you for your patience in letting me let off steam. Rant over. I'm calmer now
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
I think the google toolbar updater puts an entry in the scheduler, so if you delete that, then the updates will stop.
Best wishes, Hans
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you?
Yes - nuff said?
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
Sorry about that! :laugh: Also, I use Firefox. I think the toolbar is more unstable on IE than on FF. I've had [fixable] problems in IE in the past but not in FF.
Kevin
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Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
But if others don't care for them that's fine.
:laugh: I like the way you put it.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though.
Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall.
Yeah, it was becoming a way for some companies to support others, and some to make money (Java SE and the Google Toolbar[^])...may be that is the main reason some do not like the toolbar. :~ Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
Graham Shanks wrote:
But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software
I have re-read that several times and I think that no software annoys you :) I think you are either Budhist or you have missed out an 'un' or my brain has stopped working (it could be any of those really!) :-D
Ali
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I think the google toolbar updater puts an entry in the scheduler, so if you delete that, then the updates will stop.
Best wishes, Hans
Thanks, never used it, but the Google Software Updater is there. It is possible, uninstalling the Google Updater could also solve it. Best regards, Paul
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Graham Shanks wrote:
But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software
I have re-read that several times and I think that no software annoys you :) I think you are either Budhist or you have missed out an 'un' or my brain has stopped working (it could be any of those really!) :-D
Ali
Alison Pentland wrote:
you have missed out an 'un'
:doh:
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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Alison Pentland wrote:
you have missed out an 'un'
:doh:
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
Graham Shanks wrote:
"But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software"
But Graham Shanks most probably meant: "But if I uninstalled every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software" Hence
Alison Pentland wrote:
you have missed out an 'un'
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
But if others don't care for them that's fine.
:laugh: I like the way you put it.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though.
Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide.
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall.
Yeah, it was becoming a way for some companies to support others, and some to make money (Java SE and the Google Toolbar[^])...may be that is the main reason some do not like the toolbar. :~ Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide
I've tried them briefly out of curiosity. Well, the former really. The latter just appeared on my Dad's PC - probably via BT Broadband or something - and sucks really badly!:mad: The Microsoft one I just found to be not much use - probably for similar reasons to yourself. Anyway, I mostly use Firefox rather than IE and there isn't an MS toolbar for Firefox is there? Not sure.
Kevin
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Alison Pentland wrote:
you have missed out an 'un'
:doh:
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
No worries, that's what happens when you get to our age! (Just read your bio, 30 years :rolleyes: ) I had to mention the missing 'un' because I got stuck in a kind of a 'mental loop' reading it. Every time I got to the end and I thought I understood it, my brain said, 'Unknown error - restart'! Fortunately the phone rang and snapped me out of it, or I could have been there till the end of the day! :-D
Ali
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No worries, that's what happens when you get to our age! (Just read your bio, 30 years :rolleyes: ) I had to mention the missing 'un' because I got stuck in a kind of a 'mental loop' reading it. Every time I got to the end and I thought I understood it, my brain said, 'Unknown error - restart'! Fortunately the phone rang and snapped me out of it, or I could have been there till the end of the day! :-D
Ali
Alison Pentland wrote:
'Unknown error - restart'
I just get +++ OUT OF CHEESE ERROR +++
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
You could save time by uninstalling Windows first. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
You could save time by uninstalling Windows first. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
You could save time by uninstalling Windows first
Too slow - I think I'll try
format c:Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)
Kevin