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  • P Paul Selormey

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    I use the bookmarking feature built into the browser (and use foxmarks sometimes).

    I think it is a well known feature, just that it does not go with me to my work place and back.

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    You can get a list of latest CP articles as an RSS feed.

    Why does it become a problem if you get it right on a toolbar?

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    Gmail can be accessed without a toolbar too.

    Yes, again well known. I talking a quick list of recent mails - right there on my toolbar along side the CP new article list.

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    Searching wikipedia, CP, internet, etc., can be done without a toolbar.

    Of course, yes. Just same as we can work with VS.NET without any of the addins. Best regards, Paul.

    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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    Kevin McFarlane
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    Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)

    Kevin

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      I've used Googler[^] since long before "browser helpers" became the latest way to spam. Simple and clean. On the first computer I used it on, it took up the same space as a shortcut (one allocation unit), so I put the program itself in the start-up menu.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Graham Shanks
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      Looks interesting - I'll try it out

      Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        Graham Shanks wrote:

        autofill

        One of the best features.

        Graham Shanks wrote:

        access your bookmarks from any computer

        Another one of the best features.

        Graham Shanks wrote:

        store my credit card details

        I never use that.

        Graham Shanks wrote:

        I just want to be able to get to google search quickly - that's it, nothing more

        So why do you use the toolbar? Why have it installed at all?:confused: You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you? (I do still use the Google Toolbar because I like the two features mentioned above plus a few more.)

        Kevin

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        Graham Shanks
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        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

        You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you?

        Yes - nuff said?

        Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Simple solution - uninstall it.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Graham Shanks
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          But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)

          Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            Mark Wallace wrote:

            I thought I was the only one! Were we separated at birth, or something?

            Quite possible, if you're 26 too! :-D

            It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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            Mark_Wallace
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            I'm a few years past that, but there's a time-difference (I'm at GMT+1), so that would explain it.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • G Graham Shanks

              The auto-update facility for Google Toolbar is really annoying me. Version 6 of the toolbar does not play nicely with my company proxy server (the proxy server complains about badly formed queries). However version 5 works fine for me. And they have a link on their nicely minimal google toolbar home page for previous versions. However they have an auto-update feature that they are quite proud of - they have it in their list of features: Auto Update There is no need to check for new versions of Google Toolbar; updates are installed automatically, so you will always have the latest and greatest version. But you cannot turn it off! WTF! :mad: Why on earth provide previous versions if you cannot turn off the auto-update? Why would google engineers think that this was a good idea? Do they think forcing me to uninstall the auto-updated toolbar, reinstalling the previous version and then reconfiguring it would lead to an enjoyable user experience? As for the latest and greatest - it definitely isn't the greatest because it doesn't work for me. And don't even get me started on the bloat that they add with every version: autofill - meh, don't use web forms enough to make it worthwhile; access your bookmarks from any computer - nope, don't need that either; store my credit card details - whoa, not even with an encrypted hard disk and strong password. Why doesn't their software follow their minimalist theme to their web site? I just want to be able to get to google search quickly - that's it, nothing more. If anyone is interested, the way to turn off the auto-update, apparently, is to add the following line to your hosts file:

              127.0.0.1 toolbar.google.com

              Thank you for your patience in letting me let off steam. Rant over. I'm calmer now

              Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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              Hans Dietrich
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              I think the google toolbar updater puts an entry in the scheduler, so if you delete that, then the updates will stop.

              Best wishes, Hans


              [Hans Dietrich Software]

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              • G Graham Shanks

                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                You can search from the search box in all the latest browsers. You're not stuck on IE 6 are you?

                Yes - nuff said?

                Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                Kevin McFarlane
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                Sorry about that! :laugh: Also, I use Firefox. I think the toolbar is more unstable on IE than on FF. I've had [fixable] problems in IE in the past but not in FF.

                Kevin

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)

                  Kevin

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                  Paul Selormey
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                  Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                  But if others don't care for them that's fine.

                  :laugh: I like the way you put it.

                  Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                  The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though.

                  Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide.

                  Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                  Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall.

                  Yeah, it was becoming a way for some companies to support others, and some to make money (Java SE and the Google Toolbar[^])...may be that is the main reason some do not like the toolbar. :~ Best regards, Paul.

                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                  • G Graham Shanks

                    But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)

                    Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                    Graham Shanks wrote:

                    But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software

                    I have re-read that several times and I think that no software annoys you :) I think you are either Budhist or you have missed out an 'un' or my brain has stopped working (it could be any of those really!) :-D

                    Ali

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                    • H Hans Dietrich

                      I think the google toolbar updater puts an entry in the scheduler, so if you delete that, then the updates will stop.

                      Best wishes, Hans


                      [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                      Paul Selormey
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                      Thanks, never used it, but the Google Software Updater is there. It is possible, uninstalling the Google Updater could also solve it. Best regards, Paul

                      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                      • L LittleYellowBird

                        Graham Shanks wrote:

                        But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software

                        I have re-read that several times and I think that no software annoys you :) I think you are either Budhist or you have missed out an 'un' or my brain has stopped working (it could be any of those really!) :-D

                        Ali

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                        Graham Shanks
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                        Alison Pentland wrote:

                        you have missed out an 'un'

                        :doh:

                        Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                        • G Graham Shanks

                          Alison Pentland wrote:

                          you have missed out an 'un'

                          :doh:

                          Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                          Rage
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                          Graham Shanks wrote:

                          "But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software"

                          But Graham Shanks most probably meant: "But if I uninstalled every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software" Hence

                          Alison Pentland wrote:

                          you have missed out an 'un'

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                          • P Paul Selormey

                            Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                            But if others don't care for them that's fine.

                            :laugh: I like the way you put it.

                            Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                            The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though.

                            Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide.

                            Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                            Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall.

                            Yeah, it was becoming a way for some companies to support others, and some to make money (Java SE and the Google Toolbar[^])...may be that is the main reason some do not like the toolbar. :~ Best regards, Paul.

                            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            Paul Selormey wrote:

                            Same here, I have never tried MS or the Yahoo toolbars, mainly because I do not use any of the services the companies provide

                            I've tried them briefly out of curiosity. Well, the former really. The latter just appeared on my Dad's PC - probably via BT Broadband or something - and sucks really badly!:mad: The Microsoft one I just found to be not much use - probably for similar reasons to yourself. Anyway, I mostly use Firefox rather than IE and there isn't an MS toolbar for Firefox is there? Not sure.

                            Kevin

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                            • G Graham Shanks

                              Alison Pentland wrote:

                              you have missed out an 'un'

                              :doh:

                              Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                              LittleYellowBird
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                              No worries, that's what happens when you get to our age! (Just read your bio, 30 years :rolleyes: ) I had to mention the missing 'un' because I got stuck in a kind of a 'mental loop' reading it. Every time I got to the end and I thought I understood it, my brain said, 'Unknown error - restart'! Fortunately the phone rang and snapped me out of it, or I could have been there till the end of the day! :-D

                              Ali

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                                No worries, that's what happens when you get to our age! (Just read your bio, 30 years :rolleyes: ) I had to mention the missing 'un' because I got stuck in a kind of a 'mental loop' reading it. Every time I got to the end and I thought I understood it, my brain said, 'Unknown error - restart'! Fortunately the phone rang and snapped me out of it, or I could have been there till the end of the day! :-D

                                Ali

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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                Alison Pentland wrote:

                                'Unknown error - restart'

                                I just get +++ OUT OF CHEESE ERROR +++


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                • G Graham Shanks

                                  But if I installed every application that annoyed me then my machine would be devoid of software :)

                                  Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  You could save time by uninstalling Windows first. :)

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    You could save time by uninstalling Windows first. :)

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Graham Shanks
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    You could save time by uninstalling Windows first

                                    Too slow - I think I'll try format c:

                                    Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                                      Paul, I've found that people either love or hate the Google Toolbar. Personally, I find it useful for similar reasons to yourself. All I do is state those reasons when asked. But if others don't care for them that's fine. The Google Toolbar is the only browser toolbar I've found useful though. Any others that appear from time to time I uninstall. (Though some of the reasons people state for not liking toolbars are strange.)

                                      Kevin

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                                      fred_
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                                      I've found the "IE Developers Toolbar" to be handy on occasion especially when debugging javascript when Items are nested in containers mangling names and testing different screen resolutions.

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                                        I've found the "IE Developers Toolbar" to be handy on occasion especially when debugging javascript when Items are nested in containers mangling names and testing different screen resolutions.

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                                        Kevin McFarlane
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                                        Ah, yes. I forgot about that. :-O Firefox is my default browser but when doing ASP.NET dev then I use both IE Dev Toolbar and Firebug.

                                        Kevin

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                                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                                          I have plenty of reasons for wanting a toolbar personally but each to his own. However, from the OP's words there seems to be no reason why he needs it.

                                          Kevin

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          The only toolbar I use is the Del.icio.us toolbar. Even there, I turned off the toolbar itself and dragged the Bookmark button to my menu bar.

                                          Cheers, Vikram.

                                          Recent activities: TV series: Friends, season 6 Books: Freakonomics, by Steven Levitt and Stephen J Dubner.


                                          Carpe Diem.

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