Why It Sucks To Be Me Today
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I managed to access it. I love Viz. Been going for years now, and still totally offensive.
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Sweary Mary on the fromt cover always cheered me up in the days I used to read.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
letting the app look more shiny and pretty
Sadly, that can make the difference for the client...
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Or access his filters!
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O' er missus, I rather not touch his filters
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
s there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms?
Is there something Winforms can do which MFC can not? No Is there something MFC can do which Win32 API can not? No But:- Can something be done better in MFC over raw Win32? -> Yes Can something be done better in WinForms over raw MFC? Yes Can something be done better in WPF over WinForms? Yes. Specifically, data binding, highly flexible UI model. Some kind of applications can be developed easily with WPF which will take enormously long time to develop with WinForms especially graphical/data visualization applications.
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
From what I understand of things, the data binding in WPF is pretty damn cool. While there's no logical/technical reason this couldn't have been a standalone library, it's not, and WinForms has no equivalent. Other than that, most of the rest is just eye-candy, especially for LOB apps.
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
s there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms?
Is there something Winforms can do which MFC can not? No Is there something MFC can do which Win32 API can not? No But:- Can something be done better in MFC over raw Win32? -> Yes Can something be done better in WinForms over raw MFC? Yes Can something be done better in WPF over WinForms? Yes. Specifically, data binding, highly flexible UI model. Some kind of applications can be developed easily with WPF which will take enormously long time to develop with WinForms especially graphical/data visualization applications.
Maybe the question should have been. "Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms with less hassle ?"
Cheers Garth I don't really care whether or not i really care or not.
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John, may I point you here http://www.viz.co.uk/profanisaurus.html[^] for some light entertainment. Dalek Dave, may appriciate this as well.
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
Very cool! Going to have to bookmark that!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
It's easier to do some of the flashy stuff, but as far as adding functional value to the application, no.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I've been plodding along, writing our WPF app, and thinking I've got stuff pretty much ironed out regarding code organization. I put our custom templates and styles into a AppResources project, and user controls and minor windows into the AppControls project. Everything was fine until I decided I needed a custom
TabItemclass. So I implement that class, compile and run the app. All of a sudden, the tab items don't have borders - at all. Everything else seems to be there, but not the borders, unless the mouse is hovering over the tab. After a brief inspection, I thought that theTargetTypeproperty on my customTabItemtemplate should be changed fromTabItemtoMyTabItem(the customTabItemclass' name). Well, I can't do that because it will create a circular assembly reference, which is verboten in .Net. Now I have to go through ALL of my code to change crap around. Specifically, I have to move all the custom XAML code into the AppControls assembly, and change all of the control/window XAML that uses it to make sure all the references are correct. And I don't even know if this is going to fix the fraklking problem until I try it! One step forward, two steps back. What a royal frakking pain in the anal pore..."Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001"WPF" seems to be turning into "WTF" with a mouthful of doughnut.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms MFC or native SDK?
FTFY. :) :-O I see I'm a little late to the party. Many others have voiced the same question. :cool:
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
s there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms?
Is there something Winforms can do which MFC can not? No Is there something MFC can do which Win32 API can not? No But:- Can something be done better in MFC over raw Win32? -> Yes Can something be done better in WinForms over raw MFC? Yes Can something be done better in WPF over WinForms? Yes. Specifically, data binding, highly flexible UI model. Some kind of applications can be developed easily with WPF which will take enormously long time to develop with WinForms especially graphical/data visualization applications.
Define 'better'.
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I just gotta ask. Besides just letting the app look more shiny and pretty, does WPF bring any functionality to the party? Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms? This stuff sounds like the polar opposite of "best bang for the buck."
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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John, may I point you here http://www.viz.co.uk/profanisaurus.html[^] for some light entertainment. Dalek Dave, may appriciate this as well.
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
I looooove dodd.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Maybe the question should have been. "Specifically, is there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms with less hassle ?"
Cheers Garth I don't really care whether or not i really care or not.
There actually is believe it or not. If your application needed you to put some text labels that changed value and were overlayed on to an image. Sure, it is a minor one, but it is still there! :)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
s there something a WPF app can do that I can't accomplish with Winforms?
Is there something Winforms can do which MFC can not? No Is there something MFC can do which Win32 API can not? No But:- Can something be done better in MFC over raw Win32? -> Yes Can something be done better in WinForms over raw MFC? Yes Can something be done better in WPF over WinForms? Yes. Specifically, data binding, highly flexible UI model. Some kind of applications can be developed easily with WPF which will take enormously long time to develop with WinForms especially graphical/data visualization applications.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Can something be done better in MFC over raw Win32? -> Yes
Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :rolleyes:
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