If you want to let David Letterman know what you think;
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Christian Graus wrote:
Either way, instead of just blaming the media
I don't blame the media. I blame David Letterman. I don't blame society, or his upbringing, or the fact that his pet guppy died while he was away on vacation. He's a grownup. He talked shit. He's responsible for it, and if I help get him fired, I'll feel good about it.
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Oakman wrote:
He's a grownup. He talked sh*t. He's responsible for it, and if I help get him fired, I'll feel good about it.
Well, odds are greater that you'll do him good, but, by all means, I don't disagree that he should be accountable for his actions. The issue is that I doubt he will be.
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Oakman wrote:
He's a grownup. He talked sh*t. He's responsible for it, and if I help get him fired, I'll feel good about it.
Well, odds are greater that you'll do him good, but, by all means, I don't disagree that he should be accountable for his actions. The issue is that I doubt he will be.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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BoneSoft wrote:
Or maybe we should just hold accountable anyone who feels it's OK to crap on the innocent child of a political figure on national television...Maybe there's no way in hell that there would even be a debate on whether something should be done, much less actually letting somebody get away with this, if they were aiming it at the other side of the aisle. Just a thought.
Google John McCain gorilla Then Google John McCain Chelsea Clinton I'm not defending Letterman's comments, merely pointing out that the assiduously nurtured sense of victimizaton on the right involves a fair bit of selectivity.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
I'm not defending Letterman's comments, merely pointing out that the assiduously nurtured sense of victimizaton on the right involves a fair bit of selectivity.
Since I found the ugliness associated with the Stan Shannon wing of the republicans during the election and since equally reprehensible and speak/spoke out against it, I hope you don't mind if I say that any attempt to play the "He started it!" game works better with 5 year-olds than with adults.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:30 AM
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John Carson wrote:
I'm not defending Letterman's comments, merely pointing out that the assiduously nurtured sense of victimizaton on the right involves a fair bit of selectivity.
Since I found the ugliness associated with the Stan Shannon wing of the republicans during the election and since equally reprehensible and speak/spoke out against it, I hope you don't mind if I say that any attempt to play the "He started it!" game works better with 5 year-olds than with adults.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:30 AM
Oakman wrote:
Since I found the ugliness associated with the Stan Shannon wing of the republicans during the election and since equally reprhehensible and speak/spoke out against it, I hope you don't mind if I say that any attempt to play the "He started it!" game works better with 5 years olds than with adults.
I hope you don't mind me pointing out that I was responding, not to an ethical argument, but to a claim of fact, namely that "there's no way in hell that there would even be a debate on whether something should be done, much less actually letting somebody get away with this, if they were aiming it at the other side of the aisle".
John Carson
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Oakman wrote:
Since I found the ugliness associated with the Stan Shannon wing of the republicans during the election and since equally reprhehensible and speak/spoke out against it, I hope you don't mind if I say that any attempt to play the "He started it!" game works better with 5 years olds than with adults.
I hope you don't mind me pointing out that I was responding, not to an ethical argument, but to a claim of fact, namely that "there's no way in hell that there would even be a debate on whether something should be done, much less actually letting somebody get away with this, if they were aiming it at the other side of the aisle".
John Carson
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BoneSoft wrote:
Or maybe we should just hold accountable anyone who feels it's OK to crap on the innocent child of a political figure on national television...Maybe there's no way in hell that there would even be a debate on whether something should be done, much less actually letting somebody get away with this, if they were aiming it at the other side of the aisle. Just a thought.
Google John McCain gorilla Then Google John McCain Chelsea Clinton I'm not defending Letterman's comments, merely pointing out that the assiduously nurtured sense of victimizaton on the right involves a fair bit of selectivity.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
a fair bit of selectivity
1986 huh, I didn't see how it referenced someone's child, personally. And then Chelsea in 1998, that one I remember because it was plastered all over the news. And I remember it drug out for quite some time too. Everybody has a "fair bit of selectivity" but none quite so much as the media.
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kmg365 wrote:
Recently Letterman made a joke about Sarah Palin's 14 year old daughter being raped. Later he sort of apologized and said he meant the 18 year old daughter. :wtf:
No, it was not about the 14-yo. And it was not about rape, statutory or otherwise. And, it was *mosty* about Eliot Spitzer and "A-Rod" ... Palin's 18-yo daughter (the one who got herself knocked-up) was a prop. Sure, it was tasteless to use the 18-year old young woman in that manner. But it wasn't about the 14-year old girl, and it wasn't about rape.
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John Carson wrote:
Incredibly enough, I think there is a lot of truth in what you say on this point.
Indeed, and it is a dangerous how the media has this leverage. It is a shame we cant agree that a central bank and central economic planning don't belong in a free capitalistic society.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a shame we cant agree that a central bank and central economic planning don't belong in a free capitalistic society.
It's a shame you haven't yet realized that "free capitalistic society" is a contradiction in terms...
Shog9 wrote:
It's a shame you haven't yet realized that "free capitalistic society" is a contradiction in terms...
How so?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Shog9 wrote:
It's a shame you haven't yet realized that "free capitalistic society" is a contradiction in terms...
How so?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.