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Remember, remember the 4th of July (gunpowder, treason and all men are created equal)

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    ian dennis 0
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    In America, they set off fireworks to celebrate the birth of a new government. In England, they set off fireworks to celebrate an attempt to blow theirs up!

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      In America, they set off fireworks to celebrate the birth of a new government. In England, they set off fireworks to celebrate an attempt to blow theirs up!

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      Dalek Dave
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      Actually we are celebrating the capture and execution of a traitor. We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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        Actually we are celebrating the capture and execution of a traitor. We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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        Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots. Can I assume that you're not a fan of V For Vendetta?

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots. Can I assume that you're not a fan of V For Vendetta?

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Dalek Dave
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          Never seen it.

          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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            Actually we are celebrating the capture and execution of a traitor. We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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            thrakazog
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

            England gets to have all the fun when it comes to effigies. Try doing that in the US and it's a "Hate Crime" :~

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              Actually we are celebrating the capture and execution of a traitor. We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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              ian dennis 0
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              I know :) <--- is an ex-pat Brit and Scouser

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                Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots. Can I assume that you're not a fan of V For Vendetta?

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Christian Graus
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                History is always written by the winners. Had you guys failed to kick out the Brits, how do you think George Washington would be remembered ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                  History is always written by the winners. Had you guys failed to kick out the Brits, how do you think George Washington would be remembered ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                  That was my point.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Never seen it.

                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                    You should watch it. It's one of my favorites...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      History is always written by the winners. Had you guys failed to kick out the Brits, how do you think George Washington would be remembered ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      Hi Christian,

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Had you guys failed to kick out the Brits, how do you think George Washington would be remembered ?

                      As a first-class surveyor. best, Bill

                      "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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                        Actually we are celebrating the capture and execution of a traitor. We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        The last man to enter Parliament with honest intentions ;P :laugh:

                        Cheers, Vikram.

                        Recent activities: TV series: Friends, season 8 Books: Freakonomics, by Steven Levitt and Stephen J Dubner.


                        Carpe Diem.

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          We burn Guy Fawkes in effigy.

                          England gets to have all the fun when it comes to effigies. Try doing that in the US and it's a "Hate Crime" :~

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          thrakazog wrote:

                          England gets to have all the fun when it comes to effigies.

                          They burn one guy's effigy, from hundreds of years ago. In India, you're nobody if you haven't had your effigy burnt. Politicians, cricketers, bureaucrats, religious leaders, you name it.

                          Cheers, Vikram.

                          Recent activities: TV series: Friends, season 8 Books: Freakonomics, by Steven Levitt and Stephen J Dubner.


                          Carpe Diem.

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                            In America, they set off fireworks to celebrate the birth of a new government. In England, they set off fireworks to celebrate an attempt to blow theirs up!

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                            In America, they threw tea in the ocean to start their independence as nation of savages.

                            Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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                              You should watch it. It's one of my favorites...

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              peterchen
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                              Natalie Portman with a shaved head is worth it. The rest is nice.

                              Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
                              My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                Never seen it.

                                ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                I'd read it first, as the book is far better. Film's still good though.

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                                  You should watch it. It's one of my favorites...

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  An even better idea, would be to read it. Alan Moores work has a lot more impact in its original form. :)

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                                    thrakazog wrote:

                                    England gets to have all the fun when it comes to effigies.

                                    They burn one guy's effigy, from hundreds of years ago. In India, you're nobody if you haven't had your effigy burnt. Politicians, cricketers, bureaucrats, religious leaders, you name it.

                                    Cheers, Vikram.

                                    Recent activities: TV series: Friends, season 8 Books: Freakonomics, by Steven Levitt and Stephen J Dubner.


                                    Carpe Diem.

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                                    Contemporary effigies are burned in Lewes, Sussex, UK. 2008 was Uncle Sam (somewhat Obama-like) and Alistair Darling.

                                    Bob Emmett

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots. Can I assume that you're not a fan of V For Vendetta?

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots.

                                      Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - Sir John Harington Ovid expressed similar sentiments ~1600 years prior.

                                      It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                                        In America, they threw tea in the ocean to start their independence as nation of savages.

                                        Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
                                        My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                        ian dennis 0
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                                        peterchen wrote:

                                        In America, they threw tea in the ocean

                                        ... and they still can't make a decent cuppa.

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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          Curious point - when the rebels lose, they're called traitors, but when they win, they're called patriots.

                                          Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - Sir John Harington Ovid expressed similar sentiments ~1600 years prior.

                                          It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                                          :) I love it, never heard that quote before, isn't that a couplet?


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