Opinions on Visual Studio 2008 performance
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
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All I know is what I read in the Lounge and the word "sucks" seems to come up a lot :-\
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aren't you confusing VS2008 with VS2010, MSDN, Windows Update, WPF, Silverlight, Vista, ...? :)
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Reference adding is way way way too slow, especially if you were going to browse or add an other project in the same solution as reference anyway, I'm not having any other problems though
I second that. :)
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Reference adding is way way way too slow, especially if you were going to browse or add an other project in the same solution as reference anyway, I'm not having any other problems though
Yep, and they're aware of the problem[^]. Let's hope they fix it.
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
It gets the job done when I need it, but I try not to need it. Pre-SP1 was better. I don't expect to go to 2010, but not due to "performance".
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
I don't use it that often, but it seems fine to me. I used it home last night and it I couldn't tell the difference between the speed of it and VS 2005 that I had just been using at work even though 2008 runs on a slower system. Neither is as zippy as VC++6, though the different isn't that big (and I prefer so many of the features of 2005/2008, that using VC++6 annoys me, even though I use it for 80% of my work for legacy reasons.)
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
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Apart from the aforementioned sluggishness on adding a reference, I have little to complain about, despite running more than one instance on occasion. I pretty much only do Windows Forms stuff, others who do WPF and Web programming do seem to have problems though, you need to hear from them.
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aren't you confusing VS2008 with VS2010, MSDN, Windows Update, WPF, Silverlight, Vista, ...? :)
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aren't you confusing VS2008 with VS2010, MSDN, Windows Update, WPF, Silverlight, Vista, ...? :)
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there is a difference :confused: I'm still using VC++ 1.52 and VC++ 6.0 at work :sigh:
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
I'm not happy with its performance either. Takes too much of time to do trivial things (like adding a control variable to a button, etc.,). The compiler is excellent though...
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
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Kent Sharkey wrote:
I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter
You were? They did? Didn't notice that! It's not nice to make fun of the fat kid in class :-)
Kent Sharkey wrote:
What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
OK apart from the things that really irritate me. Slow startup. Slow transition to/from debugging. Slow at singlestepping (although SP1 improved that a fair bit). The C++ wizards are astoundingly slow. The dialog editor & toolbox always seem a tad sluggish. Aside from that, it's fine. So long as I've got Visual Assist installed to give me Intellisense that actually works, various editor features I can't live without and C++ refactoring. Yeah, aside from all that, it's fine.
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Seems fine to me. The only time I notice any slowdown is when it first opens a project and when switching between Debug and Release modes. I regularly have 2 or 3 instances of VS2008 open and the only real problem I encounter is when I'm looking at the wrong one and thinking "WTF is this?" :doh:
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Kent Sharkey wrote:
I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter
You were? They did? Didn't notice that! It's not nice to make fun of the fat kid in class :-)
Kent Sharkey wrote:
What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
OK apart from the things that really irritate me. Slow startup. Slow transition to/from debugging. Slow at singlestepping (although SP1 improved that a fair bit). The C++ wizards are astoundingly slow. The dialog editor & toolbox always seem a tad sluggish. Aside from that, it's fine. So long as I've got Visual Assist installed to give me Intellisense that actually works, various editor features I can't live without and C++ refactoring. Yeah, aside from all that, it's fine.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
It sure spends a lot of CPU cycles rebuilding the toolbox. And then it spends even more CPU cycles rebuilding the toolbox again. And then it spends even more CPU cycles rebuilding the toolbox again. And then it spends even more CPU cycles rebuilding the toolbox again. And then it spends even more CPU cycles rebuilding the toolbox again. etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum....
Steve Wellens
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
I use it on both XP and Vista(32) and it works as well as one would expect from a large framework. Having thought about the last sentence I wonder if my expectations have been so abraided of the last 15 years of using MS products that I no longer know the difference. It occasionally spits the dummy, but then every development platform I have EVER used choked sooner or later and needed the system will need to be slapped. It is rarely so slow that it is irritating (except when going terminal) and I regularly have 2-3 copies open. Overall not bad.
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there is a difference :confused: I'm still using VC++ 1.52 and VC++ 6.0 at work :sigh:
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
VS2008 is "OK" in my view. It's more sluggish than VS2003 (which I keep drifting back to for that reason) but with SP1 and the Feature Pack installed its hard to beat. It's also a heck of a lot less buggy than VS2005, which still has a number of significant bugs in it which were reported at Beta 2 and closed as "won't fix". But I digress... If you want a real easy target, take a look at VS2010 Beta 1 and compare it with the stability and snappiness of the previous CTP. "10 is the new 6" indeed! :|
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Reference adding is way way way too slow, especially if you were going to browse or add an other project in the same solution as reference anyway, I'm not having any other problems though
harold aptroot wrote:
Reference adding is way way way too slow
I thought that is the problem in all VS versions. I can reproduce that issue in VS2003 as well VS2005 also. :-)
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I was chastised as an idiot (I know I am, but for other reasons) after my being nasty to poor VS in last night's newsletter, so I've decided to get a second (and third, fourth and fiftieth hopefully) opinion. What do people think of the performance of Visual Studio 2008?
-------------- TTFN - Kent
sluggish and that's on a 4GB, dual core machine with 7200rpm drive. You are not being overly critical. Of course Outlook 2007 is VERY sluggish.
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Core2 duo extreme @ 3 GHZ, Intel DG45ID board (with HDMI support, dolby digital, 7.1 surround and other goodies), 500Gigs WD, 22" Samsung Full HD Monitor, Nvidia graphics card with 512MB memory, 6Gigs of RAM and last but not least, MX5021[^] (Spanking good and I love it, although almost 6 to 7 times the cost of a normal 2.1 speakers though). Oddly, I'm running Vista X64 (will run it until I can get Win7). Now, I'm finding my office machine to be "slow". :)
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Nice :-)
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Spanking good and I love it, although almost 6 to 7 times the cost of a normal 2.1 speakers though
You think that's excessive - when I had a desktop PC at home (long time ago now - I've only used laptops at home for...3 years now), I used a Rotel amp + Celestion monitor speakers - that's (almost) proper hi-fi, man. Did sound good.
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