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  • P Paul Selormey

    Thanks for the response.

    Shog9 wrote:

    Forget Vista ever existed and just move on.

    I wish, but is it RC.

    Shog9 wrote:

    You should be able to just bring up the Properties dialog, Security page, for the drive and add Modify rights to the group your user account is in.

    I followed the information here...[^], and still could not get the permission to save modified files. Now that each such change take about 6 hours to modify the security on the files, I do not know how many times I could continue trying the options. Best regards, Paul.

    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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    Clickok
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    Paul Selormey wrote:

    I wish, but is it RC.

    Windows Vista is BETA yet... ;)


    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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      Paul Selormey wrote:

      I followed the information here...[^], and still could not get the permission to save modified files.

      Hit that Advanced button. You'll get a much nicer dialog that lets you do all sorts of fun stuff... but for our purposes, the important part is where you can override all child settings. So make sure you have a line in there with Allow in the Type column, Users in the Name column, Read & Execute in the Permission column, and "This folder, subfolders and files" in the Apply To column. Then find the line with your user name in the Name column, and make sure it looks the same, but with Full Control in the Permission column. Finally, check the box labeled "Replace permission entries on all child objects with entries shown here that apply to child objects" and click Ok. This is going to blow away the security settings for everything else on that drive and replace them with those you've specified, so make sure you have it right. Then go get a cup of tea. And maybe a good book. Or a good night's rest. And if that doesn't work, install the We7en RC. Seriously, life's too short to spend it fighting with Vista.

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      Paul Selormey
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      Thanks for the information and the support.

      Shog9 wrote:

      Finally, check the box labeled "Replace permission entries on all child objects with entries shown here that apply to child objects" and click Ok.

      All the settings are the same, except this one. I have now checked this and waiting for the system to complete changing the security on each file.

      Shog9 wrote:

      And if that doesn't work, install the We7en RC. Seriously, life's too short to spend it fighting with Vista.

      Looks like that is what I might have to do, currently have it playing on VPC. Best regards, Paul.

      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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        Paul Selormey wrote:

        I wish, but is it RC.

        Windows Vista is BETA yet... ;)


        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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        Paul Selormey
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        Clickok wrote:

        Windows Vista is BETA yet...

        Thanks, a reminder to smile even in frustration - you did a good job :thumbsup: Best regards, Paul.

        Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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        • P Paul Selormey

          Clickok wrote:

          Windows Vista is BETA yet...

          Thanks, a reminder to smile even in frustration - you did a good job :thumbsup: Best regards, Paul.

          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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          Donsw
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          if 7 isn't any better then xp will probably live forever

          cheers, Donsw My Recent Article : Backup of Data files - Full and Incremental

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          • P Paul Selormey

            I am getting frustrated now. It is taken me weeks to move to Vista, but now it is all frustrations. I have this big USB external hard drive, which I use to store all my data on my old PC running XP. I have now connected this to the new PC running Vista, and Vista is refusing to allow me to save my projects. I googled and found that even though I run as administrator, I still have to add my user account and give it administrator level right to be able to freely access the drive. I did and it took about 6 hours to change the security on each file on the drive. But, now here I am, it is still not working. I have already disabled the UAC, is there anything else to disable on this silly OS so that I can have my freedom to work? I cannot even view CHM (help files) on this drive, but drag them to the desktop and it is viewable - what is this whole mess? I moved to Vista SP2 on my new PC so that I could update to Windows 7, I do not know what to do now. Please help. I care less about aero or whatever, I just want to work. :confused: Best regards, Paul.

            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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            Paul, I had the same problem when I went from XP to Weven and I tried a lot of different things and finally gave up but your post peeked my interest. Anyway to make a long story short I downloaded a utility that seems to work for individual files, haven't tried it on directories but should work. Worth a shot if your still having problems. I also like it because it works from the System context menu. Mike

            "It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.


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              if 7 isn't any better then xp will probably live forever

              cheers, Donsw My Recent Article : Backup of Data files - Full and Incremental

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              Paul Selormey
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              So far, 7 has the speed and less interference (vs. Vista). With some security tools you have complete peace of mind on XP. Lets see how the final score will be when 7 is released. With my new and expensive Dell Precision workstation, I was hoping for a new level of productivity. But now, I am spending a whole day, just changing security on files! Best regards, Paul.

              Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                Paul, I had the same problem when I went from XP to Weven and I tried a lot of different things and finally gave up but your post peeked my interest. Anyway to make a long story short I downloaded a utility that seems to work for individual files, haven't tried it on directories but should work. Worth a shot if your still having problems. I also like it because it works from the System context menu. Mike

                "It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.


                Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                Paul Selormey
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                Hello Mike, Long time, no see :) Thanks for the input. I just can't understand why MS will do a modern OS expecting it to run on the latest of graphics hardware, but no expecting anyone to use external hard drive. I am currently waiting for Shog's recommendation to complete (Vista is changing the security on every file on that hard drive), and see what will happen. You did you provide any further information on the utility, or where to download it. Best regards, Paul.

                Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                • P Paul Selormey

                  Hello Mike, Long time, no see :) Thanks for the input. I just can't understand why MS will do a modern OS expecting it to run on the latest of graphics hardware, but no expecting anyone to use external hard drive. I am currently waiting for Shog's recommendation to complete (Vista is changing the security on every file on that hard drive), and see what will happen. You did you provide any further information on the utility, or where to download it. Best regards, Paul.

                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  Paul, Sorry had a brain spasm. I find as I get older these become more frequent. :) GrantAdminFullControl Utility[^]

                  Paul Selormey wrote:

                  I just can't understand why MS will do a modern OS expecting it to run on the latest of graphics hardware, but no expecting anyone to use external hard drive.

                  Sometimes I reakon they just don't think. Hope what Shog recommended works. Mike

                  "It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.


                  Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                    Paul, Sorry had a brain spasm. I find as I get older these become more frequent. :) GrantAdminFullControl Utility[^]

                    Paul Selormey wrote:

                    I just can't understand why MS will do a modern OS expecting it to run on the latest of graphics hardware, but no expecting anyone to use external hard drive.

                    Sometimes I reakon they just don't think. Hope what Shog recommended works. Mike

                    "It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather." -Harry Truman.


                    Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                    Paul Selormey
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                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    Sorry had a brain spasm. I find as I get older these become more frequent.

                    You think so? The jobless/economy is having more effect than age these days. Even if you feel you have a secured job, you cannot close your eyes/ears on cases around you. Thanks for the link. It is just a registry file, it makes it more secured anyway :) I just visited the http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com site. You created it? it seems to have a lot of gradient and I was thinking...that might be the reason you created the gradient tool. :-D

                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    Sometimes I reakon they just don't think.

                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yeah, they are wrestling with Apple on visual appearance, forgetting Apple has control over its hardware. Best regards, Paul.

                    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    • P Paul Selormey

                      I am getting frustrated now. It is taken me weeks to move to Vista, but now it is all frustrations. I have this big USB external hard drive, which I use to store all my data on my old PC running XP. I have now connected this to the new PC running Vista, and Vista is refusing to allow me to save my projects. I googled and found that even though I run as administrator, I still have to add my user account and give it administrator level right to be able to freely access the drive. I did and it took about 6 hours to change the security on each file on the drive. But, now here I am, it is still not working. I have already disabled the UAC, is there anything else to disable on this silly OS so that I can have my freedom to work? I cannot even view CHM (help files) on this drive, but drag them to the desktop and it is viewable - what is this whole mess? I moved to Vista SP2 on my new PC so that I could update to Windows 7, I do not know what to do now. Please help. I care less about aero or whatever, I just want to work. :confused: Best regards, Paul.

                      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                      Format it with an older format, such as FAT32. It doesn't store annoying "security" details, it just stores bytes. So it should just work.

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                        Format it with an older format, such as FAT32. It doesn't store annoying "security" details, it just stores bytes. So it should just work.

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                        Paul Selormey
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                        Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, that is currently not an option, the drive is currently my main storage of files. There is not even a backup yet. Best regards, Paul.

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                        • P Paul Selormey

                          Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, that is currently not an option, the drive is currently my main storage of files. There is not even a backup yet. Best regards, Paul.

                          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                          Henry Minute
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                          I don't know if the previous suggestions worked, or not. But, now the big question:

                          Paul Selormey wrote:

                          There is not even a backup yet.

                          Can you still read/write in XP? If not, you could well be stuffed. I hope that, you did resolve the problem and if so, for goodness sake do some sort of backup, even if it is only into a folder on your new PC. :)

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          • P Paul Selormey

                            Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, that is currently not an option, the drive is currently my main storage of files. There is not even a backup yet. Best regards, Paul.

                            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                            Luc Pattyn
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                            Paul Selormey wrote:

                            the drive is currently my main storage of files. There is not even a backup yet

                            Are you nuts? you're spending hours fiddling with access rights and settings on some data you don't consider important enough to have a backup? get serious, go buy a new external disk, format it on Vista, load a few files, check all is fine on all Windows versions you use, then copy all files. :)

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                              I don't know if the previous suggestions worked, or not. But, now the big question:

                              Paul Selormey wrote:

                              There is not even a backup yet.

                              Can you still read/write in XP? If not, you could well be stuffed. I hope that, you did resolve the problem and if so, for goodness sake do some sort of backup, even if it is only into a folder on your new PC. :)

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              Paul Selormey
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                              Henry Minute wrote:

                              I don't know if the previous suggestions worked, or not.

                              Not as expected or partly so far. I am now trying to see if this is restricted to some folders. The security change on the files completed, with one access denied error, it was on the system volume, so I do not know why it was trying to change the access of that.

                              Henry Minute wrote:

                              Can you still read/write in XP? If not, you could well be stuffed.

                              I will have to check, I do not think there will be any issue (just moved it from the XP).

                              Henry Minute wrote:

                              I hope that, you did resolve the problem and if so, for goodness sake do some sort of backup, even if it is only into a folder on your new PC.

                              Thanks. Yes, there is enough space on the new PC, and I was hoping to finally copy the contents of this drive and leave the original as backup. But not completely done with the old PC yet, I wish to use this externally - but now it seems I cannot :confused: Thanks for the remainder, I will backup soon. Best regards, Paul.

                              Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                Paul Selormey wrote:

                                the drive is currently my main storage of files. There is not even a backup yet

                                Are you nuts? you're spending hours fiddling with access rights and settings on some data you don't consider important enough to have a backup? get serious, go buy a new external disk, format it on Vista, load a few files, check all is fine on all Windows versions you use, then copy all files. :)

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                                Paul Selormey
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                                Thanks for your great input, I really appreciate it.

                                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                Are you nuts?

                                You should have used the bold, so that it will punch my brain :-D

                                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                you're spending hours fiddling with access rights and settings on some data you don't consider important enough to have a backup?

                                Really, I did not even think about it. :((

                                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                get serious, go buy a new external disk, format it on Vista, load a few files, check all is fine on all Windows versions you use, then copy all files.

                                Yeah, I was doing something silly - nice you did not say it! :) I have just recently bought this external drive, copied the contents of another external drive that collapsed, packed other contents on my old PC, so that I could gradually transfer them to my new PC. It is a transition state, but I still needed to code :(( Best regards, Paul.

                                Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                • P Paul Selormey

                                  I am getting frustrated now. It is taken me weeks to move to Vista, but now it is all frustrations. I have this big USB external hard drive, which I use to store all my data on my old PC running XP. I have now connected this to the new PC running Vista, and Vista is refusing to allow me to save my projects. I googled and found that even though I run as administrator, I still have to add my user account and give it administrator level right to be able to freely access the drive. I did and it took about 6 hours to change the security on each file on the drive. But, now here I am, it is still not working. I have already disabled the UAC, is there anything else to disable on this silly OS so that I can have my freedom to work? I cannot even view CHM (help files) on this drive, but drag them to the desktop and it is viewable - what is this whole mess? I moved to Vista SP2 on my new PC so that I could update to Windows 7, I do not know what to do now. Please help. I care less about aero or whatever, I just want to work. :confused: Best regards, Paul.

                                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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