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  • R realJSOP

    ...on my 1-year old Acer Aspire 5520G laptop. It took about 30 minutes from start to the first usable desktop. It also automatically finds the latest drivers for all hardware that it can identify. So after installing it, you can either wait for the auto update stuff to discover the drivers (this appears to take a few minutes), or you can go ahead and find/download them yourself. As it was, it didn't need the drivers to make my wireless card work My "Experience" index follows: Processor (AMD Turion TL-58 1.9Ghz): 4.7 Memory (4gb DDR2 667): 6.8 Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 3.5 - I was surprised this value was so low. Gaming Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 5.1 Primary Hard Disk (WD 250GB Caviar Black - not the original drive): 5.5 Their experience index calculation shouldn't merely reflect the lowest number. It should actually be an average of the summed values. If that were the case, my average experience index would be 5.1. Including Office 2007 Standard, I've consumed 13GB of hard drive space. The Disk Cleanup utility claims I can get 3MB back, so it's not really worth doing. I'm moving from XP, and these are the things that bug me: 0) The card games that come with the OS are harder to play for any length of time because the card faces are hard to look at (and yes, I've tried finding a card face style that doesn't look like crap). They quite frankly suck. The games also feel heavy (for lack of a better term). I don't play them very often as it is, but now I won't be playing them at all. 1) Window animations aren't very smooth. 2) Windows Explorer - I don't like the fact that the root items in the Navigation Pane are triple-spaced. This means the panel will require scrolling long before it's absolutely necessary. 3) Windows Explorer - The Navigation Pane should allow me to omit the root items I don't want to see. I don't know if it does or not, but it should. I have no desire to see the Favorites, Libraries, or HomeGroup in the Navigation Pane. Weven automatically installs all current versions of .Net from 1.n to 3.5 (and it appears to be 3.5 SP1). This makes installing Visual Studio and other dev tools will be a little less painful. I'm not planning on installing anything else with the system right now because they're supposed to be RTM in the 2nd half of next month. I want to like the OS, but I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult to do, because like many others, I like the way XP does stuff, and saw no reason for Microsoft to change them. Oh yeah - I shows

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    KZN_Tracer
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    I have upgraded work machine (alienware area-51 m15x laptop) and gaming machine (quad core blah...) to Weven RC1. I have been a vista user for a while, so I just did an upgrade. After using Weven for a few weeks, I had to do some work on a staff members XP machine, my goodness did XP suck! It felt really clunky and I couldn't find anything. :laugh: Give Weven a few weeks and let us know....

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

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      Henry Minute
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      I thought that Weven used DirectX 10.0 for rendering, so surely it would be 3D?

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      • R realJSOP

        ...on my 1-year old Acer Aspire 5520G laptop. It took about 30 minutes from start to the first usable desktop. It also automatically finds the latest drivers for all hardware that it can identify. So after installing it, you can either wait for the auto update stuff to discover the drivers (this appears to take a few minutes), or you can go ahead and find/download them yourself. As it was, it didn't need the drivers to make my wireless card work My "Experience" index follows: Processor (AMD Turion TL-58 1.9Ghz): 4.7 Memory (4gb DDR2 667): 6.8 Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 3.5 - I was surprised this value was so low. Gaming Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 5.1 Primary Hard Disk (WD 250GB Caviar Black - not the original drive): 5.5 Their experience index calculation shouldn't merely reflect the lowest number. It should actually be an average of the summed values. If that were the case, my average experience index would be 5.1. Including Office 2007 Standard, I've consumed 13GB of hard drive space. The Disk Cleanup utility claims I can get 3MB back, so it's not really worth doing. I'm moving from XP, and these are the things that bug me: 0) The card games that come with the OS are harder to play for any length of time because the card faces are hard to look at (and yes, I've tried finding a card face style that doesn't look like crap). They quite frankly suck. The games also feel heavy (for lack of a better term). I don't play them very often as it is, but now I won't be playing them at all. 1) Window animations aren't very smooth. 2) Windows Explorer - I don't like the fact that the root items in the Navigation Pane are triple-spaced. This means the panel will require scrolling long before it's absolutely necessary. 3) Windows Explorer - The Navigation Pane should allow me to omit the root items I don't want to see. I don't know if it does or not, but it should. I have no desire to see the Favorites, Libraries, or HomeGroup in the Navigation Pane. Weven automatically installs all current versions of .Net from 1.n to 3.5 (and it appears to be 3.5 SP1). This makes installing Visual Studio and other dev tools will be a little less painful. I'm not planning on installing anything else with the system right now because they're supposed to be RTM in the 2nd half of next month. I want to like the OS, but I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult to do, because like many others, I like the way XP does stuff, and saw no reason for Microsoft to change them. Oh yeah - I shows

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        Jim Crafton
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        Turn on classic mode. I did with Vista 64, and find it less irritating to use.

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        • R realJSOP

          ...on my 1-year old Acer Aspire 5520G laptop. It took about 30 minutes from start to the first usable desktop. It also automatically finds the latest drivers for all hardware that it can identify. So after installing it, you can either wait for the auto update stuff to discover the drivers (this appears to take a few minutes), or you can go ahead and find/download them yourself. As it was, it didn't need the drivers to make my wireless card work My "Experience" index follows: Processor (AMD Turion TL-58 1.9Ghz): 4.7 Memory (4gb DDR2 667): 6.8 Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 3.5 - I was surprised this value was so low. Gaming Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 5.1 Primary Hard Disk (WD 250GB Caviar Black - not the original drive): 5.5 Their experience index calculation shouldn't merely reflect the lowest number. It should actually be an average of the summed values. If that were the case, my average experience index would be 5.1. Including Office 2007 Standard, I've consumed 13GB of hard drive space. The Disk Cleanup utility claims I can get 3MB back, so it's not really worth doing. I'm moving from XP, and these are the things that bug me: 0) The card games that come with the OS are harder to play for any length of time because the card faces are hard to look at (and yes, I've tried finding a card face style that doesn't look like crap). They quite frankly suck. The games also feel heavy (for lack of a better term). I don't play them very often as it is, but now I won't be playing them at all. 1) Window animations aren't very smooth. 2) Windows Explorer - I don't like the fact that the root items in the Navigation Pane are triple-spaced. This means the panel will require scrolling long before it's absolutely necessary. 3) Windows Explorer - The Navigation Pane should allow me to omit the root items I don't want to see. I don't know if it does or not, but it should. I have no desire to see the Favorites, Libraries, or HomeGroup in the Navigation Pane. Weven automatically installs all current versions of .Net from 1.n to 3.5 (and it appears to be 3.5 SP1). This makes installing Visual Studio and other dev tools will be a little less painful. I'm not planning on installing anything else with the system right now because they're supposed to be RTM in the 2nd half of next month. I want to like the OS, but I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult to do, because like many others, I like the way XP does stuff, and saw no reason for Microsoft to change them. Oh yeah - I shows

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          DaveX86
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          I like it. I agree about the too much clutter in the Navigation Pane. I think I saw some place to customize that, though. Oh, and it doesn't have a driver for my $15.00 Intel 536EP based modem.

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          • S Steve Thresher

            All the old keyboard shortcuts still work if you know them.

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            Steve Thresher wrote:

            All the old keyboard shortcuts still work if you know them.

            Two that don't work (which annoys the absolute hell out of me): - in Word 2003 or earlier, if you type "*texttexttext*", everything between the asterisks is converted to bold - likewise, if you type "_texttexttext_", everything between the underscores is converted to italics This doesn't seem to work in Word 2007. If anyone knows how to reenable this then ~please~ let me know! (If this is a simple option that I've missed then I'm going to be terribly embarrassed... :sigh:)

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              Steve Thresher wrote:

              All the old keyboard shortcuts still work if you know them.

              Two that don't work (which annoys the absolute hell out of me): - in Word 2003 or earlier, if you type "*texttexttext*", everything between the asterisks is converted to bold - likewise, if you type "_texttexttext_", everything between the underscores is converted to italics This doesn't seem to work in Word 2007. If anyone knows how to reenable this then ~please~ let me know! (If this is a simple option that I've missed then I'm going to be terribly embarrassed... :sigh:)

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              Easy... Alt+T, A -> 'AutoFormat As You Type' tab -> tick *Bold* and _italic_ with real formatting box.

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              • R realJSOP

                ...on my 1-year old Acer Aspire 5520G laptop. It took about 30 minutes from start to the first usable desktop. It also automatically finds the latest drivers for all hardware that it can identify. So after installing it, you can either wait for the auto update stuff to discover the drivers (this appears to take a few minutes), or you can go ahead and find/download them yourself. As it was, it didn't need the drivers to make my wireless card work My "Experience" index follows: Processor (AMD Turion TL-58 1.9Ghz): 4.7 Memory (4gb DDR2 667): 6.8 Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 3.5 - I was surprised this value was so low. Gaming Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 5.1 Primary Hard Disk (WD 250GB Caviar Black - not the original drive): 5.5 Their experience index calculation shouldn't merely reflect the lowest number. It should actually be an average of the summed values. If that were the case, my average experience index would be 5.1. Including Office 2007 Standard, I've consumed 13GB of hard drive space. The Disk Cleanup utility claims I can get 3MB back, so it's not really worth doing. I'm moving from XP, and these are the things that bug me: 0) The card games that come with the OS are harder to play for any length of time because the card faces are hard to look at (and yes, I've tried finding a card face style that doesn't look like crap). They quite frankly suck. The games also feel heavy (for lack of a better term). I don't play them very often as it is, but now I won't be playing them at all. 1) Window animations aren't very smooth. 2) Windows Explorer - I don't like the fact that the root items in the Navigation Pane are triple-spaced. This means the panel will require scrolling long before it's absolutely necessary. 3) Windows Explorer - The Navigation Pane should allow me to omit the root items I don't want to see. I don't know if it does or not, but it should. I have no desire to see the Favorites, Libraries, or HomeGroup in the Navigation Pane. Weven automatically installs all current versions of .Net from 1.n to 3.5 (and it appears to be 3.5 SP1). This makes installing Visual Studio and other dev tools will be a little less painful. I'm not planning on installing anything else with the system right now because they're supposed to be RTM in the 2nd half of next month. I want to like the OS, but I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult to do, because like many others, I like the way XP does stuff, and saw no reason for Microsoft to change them. Oh yeah - I shows

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Oh yeah - I shows my wife Word 2007, and her very first statement was, "What in the hell did they do to the toolbar?!"

                Every user I have ever and I mean ever upgraded said the same or similar. However, 90% of them found it much easier to do normal tasks once they got used to it.

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                  I thought that Weven used DirectX 10.0 for rendering, so surely it would be 3D?

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                  Not everything. GDI still exists, and will for a long time.

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Oh yeah - I shows my wife Word 2007, and her very first statement was, "What in the hell did they do to the toolbar?!"

                    Every user I have ever and I mean ever upgraded said the same or similar. However, 90% of them found it much easier to do normal tasks once they got used to it.

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                    kinar
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                    jeffwask wrote:

                    However, 90% of them found it much easier to do normal tasks once they got used to it.

                    This might be the case for the 10% of people in the world that do a lot of word processing or spreadsheet work. However, for the other 90% of us who use office (and most likely paid the exact same price for it) as a secondary tool, it is just annoying and our "geting used to it" takes far longer than the power user. For most of us, all microsoft really gave us was a reason to look at alternatives. Hell, if I'm gonna have to learn an entirely new program as well as convert my files to a new doc format (OpenXML), then I might as well re-evaluate what I'm using to make sure that I'm still using the best product for my situation and dollars.

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                    • R realJSOP

                      ...on my 1-year old Acer Aspire 5520G laptop. It took about 30 minutes from start to the first usable desktop. It also automatically finds the latest drivers for all hardware that it can identify. So after installing it, you can either wait for the auto update stuff to discover the drivers (this appears to take a few minutes), or you can go ahead and find/download them yourself. As it was, it didn't need the drivers to make my wireless card work My "Experience" index follows: Processor (AMD Turion TL-58 1.9Ghz): 4.7 Memory (4gb DDR2 667): 6.8 Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 3.5 - I was surprised this value was so low. Gaming Graphics (nVidia 8400M): 5.1 Primary Hard Disk (WD 250GB Caviar Black - not the original drive): 5.5 Their experience index calculation shouldn't merely reflect the lowest number. It should actually be an average of the summed values. If that were the case, my average experience index would be 5.1. Including Office 2007 Standard, I've consumed 13GB of hard drive space. The Disk Cleanup utility claims I can get 3MB back, so it's not really worth doing. I'm moving from XP, and these are the things that bug me: 0) The card games that come with the OS are harder to play for any length of time because the card faces are hard to look at (and yes, I've tried finding a card face style that doesn't look like crap). They quite frankly suck. The games also feel heavy (for lack of a better term). I don't play them very often as it is, but now I won't be playing them at all. 1) Window animations aren't very smooth. 2) Windows Explorer - I don't like the fact that the root items in the Navigation Pane are triple-spaced. This means the panel will require scrolling long before it's absolutely necessary. 3) Windows Explorer - The Navigation Pane should allow me to omit the root items I don't want to see. I don't know if it does or not, but it should. I have no desire to see the Favorites, Libraries, or HomeGroup in the Navigation Pane. Weven automatically installs all current versions of .Net from 1.n to 3.5 (and it appears to be 3.5 SP1). This makes installing Visual Studio and other dev tools will be a little less painful. I'm not planning on installing anything else with the system right now because they're supposed to be RTM in the 2nd half of next month. I want to like the OS, but I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult to do, because like many others, I like the way XP does stuff, and saw no reason for Microsoft to change them. Oh yeah - I shows

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                      Michael Dunn
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                      Explorer is just horrendous. I've given up on trying to figure out how the frak to navigate via the keyboard anymore. (Actually I gave up on that in Vista, but now with the extra gunk in the tree, it's even worse.)

                      --Mike--

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                      • S Steve Thresher

                        Easy... Alt+T, A -> 'AutoFormat As You Type' tab -> tick *Bold* and _italic_ with real formatting box.

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                        Russ T
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                        Gah! How did I miss that? :doh: Cheers, thanks for that!!

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