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    Norm .net wrote:

    this will increase £10 a year after bodge-it day

    ftfy

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    :)

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      Simon P Stevens
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      Lets be honest right, retail pricing means nothing. When was the last time anyone you knew went out an brought a retail copy of windows. Most non-tech users just get it pre-installed with their next PC purchase. Most businesses use separate purchase channels, or have some form of volume licensing arrangement. If I buy it, I certainly won't be paying those prices. I'll be getting an OEM edition. (Or in all likelihood I'll be using my MSDN copy at work and stick with kubuntu at home, but I'd probably make the same decision at any price)

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        My next computer may be a Mac and I'd considered dual-booting Weven (just for the hell of it), but at $300 - I don't think so. Does anyone really think the bloody OS on a PC is worth $300?

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        Not at what they currently do, no.

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          Lets be honest right, retail pricing means nothing. When was the last time anyone you knew went out an brought a retail copy of windows. Most non-tech users just get it pre-installed with their next PC purchase. Most businesses use separate purchase channels, or have some form of volume licensing arrangement. If I buy it, I certainly won't be paying those prices. I'll be getting an OEM edition. (Or in all likelihood I'll be using my MSDN copy at work and stick with kubuntu at home, but I'd probably make the same decision at any price)

          Simon

          modified on Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:31 AM

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          Simon Stevens wrote:

          Lets be honest right, retail pricing means nothing.

          While I agree it's not truly as important as OEM pricing it still matters. There are more home PC builders than you might guess plus the retail price is what people see when shopping and gives a bad impression.

          Simon Stevens wrote:

          When was the last time anyone you knew went out an brought a retail copy of windows.

          Errr... happens every day.

          Simon Stevens wrote:

          I'll be getting an OEM edition.

          Ethically with a new OEM PC? Or unethically to use on an existing PC?

          Simon Stevens wrote:

          stick with kubuntu at home

          Would you stick with Linux if Weven was priced at $100/1 and $300/5?

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            Miszou
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            I'll pass...

            I'll get it free with MSDN subscription. Most everyone else will get it pre-installed. 3 people will buy it new.

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              My next computer may be a Mac and I'd considered dual-booting Weven (just for the hell of it), but at $300 - I don't think so. Does anyone really think the bloody OS on a PC is worth $300?

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              My next computer may be a Mac and I'd considered dual-booting Weven (just for the hell of it), but at $300 - I don't think so.

              Yes, if you want to save money just go with Apple :)

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                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                I'll pass...

                I'll get it free with MSDN subscription. Most everyone else will get it pre-installed. 3 people will buy it new.

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                Miszou wrote:

                I'll get it free with MSDN subscription.

                Really? Where can I get a free MSDN subscription? ;P

                Miszou wrote:

                Most everyone else will get it pre-installed.

                In this economy, how many people/businesses are buying new PC's? I thought one of the great things about Weven was that they trimmed it down to run better on lesser hardware?

                Miszou wrote:

                3 people will buy it new.

                I'll bet there are more retail sales than MSDN subscriptions...

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                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                  My next computer may be a Mac and I'd considered dual-booting Weven (just for the hell of it), but at $300 - I don't think so.

                  Yes, if you want to save money just go with Apple :)

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                  Yes, if you want to save money just go with Apple

                  It's a matter of value not price.

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                    I was expecting that they will do something to beat the Mac OSX Upgrade price of $29 for 1 machine $49.99 for 5 machines.

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    beat the Mac OSX Upgrade price

                    Don't see why they should. Apple and Microsoft aren't competing. Apple is a hardware company, and Microsoft is a software company. The only people for whom the price comparison makes sense are those running a Windows OS in a VM on Apple hardware, and are looking to upgrade one part of their computing user experience. If you don't fit that category, you simply aren't in the market for one or the other of OS/X and Windows.

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                      Personally, I can hardly wait! I really want to get my hands on some of the sweet tools in the package. I am sure it will irk some of the real MS haters, but I firmly believe Vista was a substantial improvement over XP. My experience with the beta Seven versions suggests the same will be true of Seven over Vista. The pricing is actually lower that where Vista was placed. I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

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                        Where did these figures come from?

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                          Personally, I can hardly wait! I really want to get my hands on some of the sweet tools in the package. I am sure it will irk some of the real MS haters, but I firmly believe Vista was a substantial improvement over XP. My experience with the beta Seven versions suggests the same will be true of Seven over Vista. The pricing is actually lower that where Vista was placed. I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

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                            Cue the Pitchforks and Burning Torches!

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                            Scared me for a minute! Thought it was my Ex-wife again! :omg:

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                              Where did these figures come from?

                              "My interest is in the future because I'm going to spend the rest of my life there." - Charles F. Kettering

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                              Ultimately Microsoft I assume but it's being reported all over the interwebs. Here is one reliable site: www.winsupersite.com[^]

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                                Personally, I can hardly wait! I really want to get my hands on some of the sweet tools in the package. I am sure it will irk some of the real MS haters, but I firmly believe Vista was a substantial improvement over XP. My experience with the beta Seven versions suggests the same will be true of Seven over Vista. The pricing is actually lower that where Vista was placed. I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

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                                Brian W King wrote:

                                I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

                                Interesting. Care to supply the bullet points that you think are truly worth a $200 upgrade or $300 purchase to the average XP user?

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                                  I'm lucky enough to be at a university with ELMS[^], so it's free :)

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                                    Don't forget to add 200 pounds if you live in the UK

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                                    Robert Surtees wrote:

                                    Don't forget to add 200 pounds if you live in the UK

                                    200lb of what?

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                                      Simon Stevens wrote:

                                      Lets be honest right, retail pricing means nothing.

                                      While I agree it's not truly as important as OEM pricing it still matters. There are more home PC builders than you might guess plus the retail price is what people see when shopping and gives a bad impression.

                                      Simon Stevens wrote:

                                      When was the last time anyone you knew went out an brought a retail copy of windows.

                                      Errr... happens every day.

                                      Simon Stevens wrote:

                                      I'll be getting an OEM edition.

                                      Ethically with a new OEM PC? Or unethically to use on an existing PC?

                                      Simon Stevens wrote:

                                      stick with kubuntu at home

                                      Would you stick with Linux if Weven was priced at $100/1 and $300/5?

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Errr... happens every day.

                                      Ok, I'm exaggerating possibly a bit. my point is like you say - It's OEM price and uptake that's important really. Still, I genuinely don't actually know anyone personally who has brought windows retail. I'd bet the figures are several orders of magnitude higher for OEM & Volume purchases.

                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Ethically with a new OEM PC? Or unethically to use on an existing PC?

                                      Well, according to this site[^], there's nothing wrong with buy OEM for an existing PC, provided you stick to the license terms. I always build my own PC's so it would depend on timing if I needed a new PC or not.

                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Would you stick with Linux if Weven was priced at $100/1 and $300/5?

                                      Yes, I like to use Linux for reasons other than just price. Using it keeps me learning new things, and I think a 100% monopoly of MS software would be a bad thing, so I like to use the alternatives at times. I equally wouldn't be happy sticking with using just Linux. Also, there is some Linux only software I'm using a lot of at the moment that I couldn't do without, I can't say the same about windows right now. Although I'd consider a copy of win7 to run in a VM, where as at the current price I wouldn't. (I don't know what the legality of buying OEM for VM use would be)

                                      Simon

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                                        Is it poss to buy a copy in the states and fly home with it? I will be there for a few days later in the year. Or is it Countrified?

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        is it Countrified?

                                        if anything, it would be domesticated :-D

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                                        • S Simon P Stevens

                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          Errr... happens every day.

                                          Ok, I'm exaggerating possibly a bit. my point is like you say - It's OEM price and uptake that's important really. Still, I genuinely don't actually know anyone personally who has brought windows retail. I'd bet the figures are several orders of magnitude higher for OEM & Volume purchases.

                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          Ethically with a new OEM PC? Or unethically to use on an existing PC?

                                          Well, according to this site[^], there's nothing wrong with buy OEM for an existing PC, provided you stick to the license terms. I always build my own PC's so it would depend on timing if I needed a new PC or not.

                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          Would you stick with Linux if Weven was priced at $100/1 and $300/5?

                                          Yes, I like to use Linux for reasons other than just price. Using it keeps me learning new things, and I think a 100% monopoly of MS software would be a bad thing, so I like to use the alternatives at times. I equally wouldn't be happy sticking with using just Linux. Also, there is some Linux only software I'm using a lot of at the moment that I couldn't do without, I can't say the same about windows right now. Although I'd consider a copy of win7 to run in a VM, where as at the current price I wouldn't. (I don't know what the legality of buying OEM for VM use would be)

                                          Simon

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                                          Simon Stevens wrote:

                                          Still, I genuinely don't actually know anyone personally who has brought windows retail.

                                          I bought 2 copies of Vista (for dual-booting on my wife & son's MacBook Pros). I bought the OEM versions thinking I was doing it unethically - but after reading your link it looks like I was legit. :-D I know many people who bought retail copies (upgrades and full) of Windows 95 & XP over the years. Not many buying Vista (maybe due to the hardware requirements).

                                          Simon Stevens wrote:

                                          I like to use Linux for reasons other than just price.

                                          As do I. I've been using Ubuntu at home for over a year. But I have to admit that it's often a little rough around the edges. I love the security and stability but some of the quirks make it a pain.

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