Weven pricing

Electron Shepherd

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

beat the Mac OSX Upgrade price

Don't see why they should. Apple and Microsoft aren't competing. Apple is a hardware company, and Microsoft is a software company. The only people for whom the price comparison makes sense are those running a Windows OS in a VM on Apple hardware, and are looking to upgrade one part of their computing user experience. If you don't fit that category, you simply aren't in the market for one or the other of OS/X and Windows.

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Brian W King

Personally, I can hardly wait! I really want to get my hands on some of the sweet tools in the package. I am sure it will irk some of the real MS haters, but I firmly believe Vista was a substantial improvement over XP. My experience with the beta Seven versions suggests the same will be true of Seven over Vista. The pricing is actually lower that where Vista was placed. I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

Jerry Hammond

Where did these figures come from?

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Brian W King

Scared me for a minute! Thought it was my Ex-wife again! :omg:

Lost User

Ultimately Microsoft I assume but it's being reported all over the interwebs. Here is one reliable site: www.winsupersite.com[^]

Lost User

Brian W King wrote:

I think its a bargain when you start looking at all of the functionality in the package.

Interesting. Care to supply the bullet points that you think are truly worth a $200 upgrade or $300 purchase to the average XP user?

fly904

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Robert Surtees wrote:

Don't forget to add 200 pounds if you live in the UK

200lb of what?

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Simon P Stevens

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Errr... happens every day.

Ok, I'm exaggerating possibly a bit. my point is like you say - It's OEM price and uptake that's important really. Still, I genuinely don't actually know anyone personally who has brought windows retail. I'd bet the figures are several orders of magnitude higher for OEM & Volume purchases.

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Ethically with a new OEM PC? Or unethically to use on an existing PC?

Well, according to this site[^], there's nothing wrong with buy OEM for an existing PC, provided you stick to the license terms. I always build my own PC's so it would depend on timing if I needed a new PC or not.

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Would you stick with Linux if Weven was priced at $100/1 and $300/5?

Yes, I like to use Linux for reasons other than just price. Using it keeps me learning new things, and I think a 100% monopoly of MS software would be a bad thing, so I like to use the alternatives at times. I equally wouldn't be happy sticking with using just Linux. Also, there is some Linux only software I'm using a lot of at the moment that I couldn't do without, I can't say the same about windows right now. Although I'd consider a copy of win7 to run in a VM, where as at the current price I wouldn't. (I don't know what the legality of buying OEM for VM use would be)

Simon

Luc Pattyn

Dalek Dave wrote:

is it Countrified?

if anything, it would be domesticated :-D

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Lost User

Simon Stevens wrote:

Still, I genuinely don't actually know anyone personally who has brought windows retail.

I bought 2 copies of Vista (for dual-booting on my wife & son's MacBook Pros). I bought the OEM versions thinking I was doing it unethically - but after reading your link it looks like I was legit. :-D I know many people who bought retail copies (upgrades and full) of Windows 95 & XP over the years. Not many buying Vista (maybe due to the hardware requirements).

Simon Stevens wrote:

I like to use Linux for reasons other than just price.

As do I. I've been using Ubuntu at home for over a year. But I have to admit that it's often a little rough around the edges. I love the security and stability but some of the quirks make it a pain.

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Shiny graphics
More secure
Shiny graphics
Most old XP programs could still work
Shiny graphics
Longer until official support runs out
Shiny graphics

That enough? :)

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Joe Woodbury

This is about 20% higher than XP retail pricing after inflation. The killer jump in price has been for Visual Studio. Then again, I haven't paid for either in a while due to freebies at developer roll-outs.

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Dan Neely

Simon Stevens wrote:

Well, according to this site[^], there's nothing wrong with buy OEM for an existing PC, provided you stick to the license terms. I always build my own PC's so it would depend on timing if I needed a new PC or not.

ars won't load for me at work (DNS has been failing all week), but the OEMlike version of windows you can buy for a discount and can't transfer from one PC to the next is technically called system builder. The main difference is that real OEM versions also have a BIOS lock (so eg a dell OEM disk won't work on an HP machine), while system builder just has activation as enforcement. For XP (never tried with vista) activation is keyed to the mobo, but will allow at least a limited amount of 'my mobo failed' reactivation via the phone. I'm 1 for 1 on doing that after a mobo failure, I assume there's a strict limit in how often they'll OK that; and the fact that only my mobo had changed may have been significant as well.

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Rajesh R Subramanian

MS releases such information from time to time to some of their partners and to MS MVPs. Talking about this particular communication, the information was supplied to us under the NDA for 24 hours (which means we cannot disclose it to the general public for another day). But, the partners (mostly such websites that focus on Windows other MS Technologies) have been given permission to disclose it officially.

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Brian W King

Sure! You hold the gun still and wait until I move in front, then you can pull the trigger. It's pretty obvious you fall in the 'haters' category. It's fine with me. You can feel as you like. I don't mind at all. This is not a religious issue for me. Its what I like, prefer and want. Those are as many 'bullet' points as you will get.

Lost User

Brian W King wrote:

It's pretty obvious you fall in the 'haters' category.

Huh? I've personally owned/used every Microsoft desktop operating system since DOS v3 with the exception of ME & Vista. I've made a career from developing apps for all of them. I'm hardly a 'hater'. I merely question the price vs. value of Weven vs. XP.

Brian W King wrote:

Those are as many 'bullet' points as you will get.

I knew the Kool-Aid made people goofy but not beligerent. ;)