Nice to see it still being used (and not supporting NULLs)
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We still use Cobol (eventually we'll move all that to .Net).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
We still use Cobol
In what environment? I started in a CICS / MVS / COBOL world, but that was in the days of huge IBM mainframes. Are you using it on "normal" x86 and x64 boxes?
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
We still use Cobol
In what environment? I started in a CICS / MVS / COBOL world, but that was in the days of huge IBM mainframes. Are you using it on "normal" x86 and x64 boxes?
It's running in VMS, but I don't know what kind of box it's on.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Just received some insurance documents for a new car. My home telephone number (which I almost never give out) is stated as: 'clearcobolfield' :)
COBOL is still big in the financials. The last bank I worked at even retained a team of dinosaurs for some assembly LOB apps!
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Just received some insurance documents for a new car. My home telephone number (which I almost never give out) is stated as: 'clearcobolfield' :)
Two years ago, I was working for a different company and they were running a considerably large financial project, entirely in COBOL. There was a team of approximately 20 people, aged 45+ who were maintaining it. The project manager was 53. The last time I spoke to them, the project was still on and was very profitable. Most of them had a very deep knowledge of the domain and the language. Back then, I used to go to them to clear up any of my C++ doubts.
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Two years ago, I was working for a different company and they were running a considerably large financial project, entirely in COBOL. There was a team of approximately 20 people, aged 45+ who were maintaining it. The project manager was 53. The last time I spoke to them, the project was still on and was very profitable. Most of them had a very deep knowledge of the domain and the language. Back then, I used to go to them to clear up any of my C++ doubts.
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj
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Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj
53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters
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Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj
Of course. You guys rock, because not only you can work, but you do some very good quality work. At least that team I was talking about did... :thumbsup: :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters
I'm 26 and I've worked on FORTRAN. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters
AECAEC wrote:
Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done.
That's partly because higher level languages like C#/java/php can do in a single statement what would take dozens of lines of C or hundreds of assembler instructions. For the rest, old code never dies; it just goes to maintenance mode. :rolleyes: Even in the embedded world, higher level languages are gaining significant amounts of ground as the chips become fast enough to handle them.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
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I'm 26 and I've worked on FORTRAN. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters
Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!
My other signature is witty and insightful.
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AECAEC wrote:
Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done.
That's partly because higher level languages like C#/java/php can do in a single statement what would take dozens of lines of C or hundreds of assembler instructions. For the rest, old code never dies; it just goes to maintenance mode. :rolleyes: Even in the embedded world, higher level languages are gaining significant amounts of ground as the chips become fast enough to handle them.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
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Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!
My other signature is witty and insightful.
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Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!
My other signature is witty and insightful.
Good grief, I had forgotten about the treks to retrieve printouts. Also I use to be able to read punch cards because the ribbon on the punch machine never seemed to work! Those were the days. djj