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  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

    Two years ago, I was working for a different company and they were running a considerably large financial project, entirely in COBOL. There was a team of approximately 20 people, aged 45+ who were maintaining it. The project manager was 53. The last time I spoke to them, the project was still on and was very profitable. Most of them had a very deep knowledge of the domain and the language. Back then, I used to go to them to clear up any of my C++ doubts.

    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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    Corporal Agarn
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    Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj

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      Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj

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      AECAEC
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      53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters

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        Hey I am 53, yes I know that is old but I still need to pay the bills. We may be old but we can still work! :-D djj

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        Of course. You guys rock, because not only you can work, but you do some very good quality work. At least that team I was talking about did... :thumbsup: :)

        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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          53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          I'm 26 and I've worked on FORTRAN. :)

          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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            53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters

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            AECAEC wrote:

            Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done.

            That's partly because higher level languages like C#/java/php can do in a single statement what would take dozens of lines of C or hundreds of assembler instructions. For the rest, old code never dies; it just goes to maintenance mode. :rolleyes: Even in the embedded world, higher level languages are gaining significant amounts of ground as the chips become fast enough to handle them.

            It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              I'm 26 and I've worked on FORTRAN. :)

              It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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              27 and so have I.

              It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                53!!!! I am 72 and I worked on the Commercial Translator before it became COBOL. I love COBOL. A sensible, stable language / system, not these fly by night fad languages like C++ and the like. I bet no one here has even programmed in octal or used plugboards. You young wipper snappers just don't know what real codeing is like. I worked on relay machines. Now that was codeing. Sish!!! You people have no feeling for the arts. Or History However as stated I too need dinaro so i use the pardon the expression "Modern langages". Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done. Note: Enbedded applications (assembler and C) constitute a much larger group. Think aircraft, ships, toasters etc. Good luck Youngsters

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                Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!

                My other signature is witty and insightful.

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                  AECAEC wrote:

                  Oh by the way at last count the largest number of operational lines of code were COBOL and FORTRAN, with C and assembler next. Java, CPP and the others constitute only a small percentage of the operational work done.

                  That's partly because higher level languages like C#/java/php can do in a single statement what would take dozens of lines of C or hundreds of assembler instructions. For the rest, old code never dies; it just goes to maintenance mode. :rolleyes: Even in the embedded world, higher level languages are gaining significant amounts of ground as the chips become fast enough to handle them.

                  It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                  I agree to some extent, but thats why the latest languages put out so many bugs

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                    Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!

                    My other signature is witty and insightful.

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                    AECAEC
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                    YES!!!! That's telling them. Also we did it all in less then 4KB of memory and no disks only cards and tape. GB's Ha! Weenies......

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                      Yep, back in the day, we didn't have those fancy ones and zeroes that you kids have nowadays. We only had ones! And did we complain? No, we were damn glad to have them! And the machine room was eight miles from my desk, and I had to go there three times a day to pick up printouts, in waist-deep snow and 90 degree heat, uphill both ways. Now get off my lawn!

                      My other signature is witty and insightful.

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                      Corporal Agarn
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                      Good grief, I had forgotten about the treks to retrieve printouts. Also I use to be able to read punch cards because the ribbon on the punch machine never seemed to work! Those were the days. djj

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