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    I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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      I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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      Kevin McFarlane
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      That's one of the advantages of .NET over C++, the rich framework. Yes I know you can achieve the same in C++ but you have to hunt harder. Though things may have moved on in the past four years which was when I last looked at C++.

      Kevin

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        I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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        Christian Graus
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        Yeah, backgroundworker makes synching up the UI thread and so on really trivial. Like someone else said, it's the framework that makes .NET cool.

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          I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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          Henry Minute
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          Now all they have to do is make MSDN work, so that it's easier to find this stuff out. :)

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            I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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            realJSOP
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            I use a BackgroundWorker in almost every app I write.

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              I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              The threading facilities in .NET are indeed :cool:. We have a C++ library that implements our TCP/IP socket communications, and a second that implements socket-based event logging, both used heavily in our distributed application. I replicated the functionality of both libraries in <2 weeks in C#. Of course, some of the ease in building the .NET versions of the libraries stems from the fact that so much of the stuff in the C++ libraries you get for 'free' with .NET.

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                I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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                koolprasad2003
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                almost what happen is we develope or code such a functionality that alreay present in .NET control but we don't know about that... :doh: is this our lazyness to read books ??? :confused: ;P -koolprasad2003 :)

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  That's one of the advantages of .NET over C++, the rich framework. Yes I know you can achieve the same in C++ but you have to hunt harder. Though things may have moved on in the past four years which was when I last looked at C++.

                  Kevin

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                  http://www.qtsoftware.com/[^] It's a very rich framework. I've been using it for a little while and it's an absolute joy.

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                    http://www.qtsoftware.com/[^] It's a very rich framework. I've been using it for a little while and it's an absolute joy.

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                    rastaVnuce
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                    I was about to suggest exactly the same thing. Quite a few of my company's products are based on that framework, and I must say, working with it is a pleasure. Good job, Trolltech, Qt Software and Nokia (this sounds exactly as me, myself and I :D ).

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                      I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      That's .NET Framework you are talking about, not C# :) Seriously, take a look at F#.

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                        The threading facilities in .NET are indeed :cool:. We have a C++ library that implements our TCP/IP socket communications, and a second that implements socket-based event logging, both used heavily in our distributed application. I replicated the functionality of both libraries in <2 weeks in C#. Of course, some of the ease in building the .NET versions of the libraries stems from the fact that so much of the stuff in the C++ libraries you get for 'free' with .NET.

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                        Eytukan
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                        C# is gg..:rolleyes:... good. :-D

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                          I was looking at how to use a thread for background tasks and there is a BackgroundWorker in the toolbox list :cool:

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Welll... yeeaah... but it doesn't belong in the toolbox, it doesn't appear on the form.

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                            That's .NET Framework you are talking about, not C# :) Seriously, take a look at F#.

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                            Do you think F# will take off next year or remain niche? My guess is that most developers will shun it because it seems too alien (personally I wouldn't shun it just because of that but developers are often surprisingly conservative).

                            Kevin

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                              Do you think F# will take off next year or remain niche? My guess is that most developers will shun it because it seems too alien (personally I wouldn't shun it just because of that but developers are often surprisingly conservative).

                              Kevin

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
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                              Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                              Do you think F# will take off next year or remain niche? My guess is that most developers will shun it because it seems too alien

                              My guess is it will remain niche. It is hard to learn and the benefits of using it are not obvious to most developers. But again, I've been wrong before :)

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                                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                Do you think F# will take off next year or remain niche? My guess is that most developers will shun it because it seems too alien

                                My guess is it will remain niche. It is hard to learn and the benefits of using it are not obvious to most developers. But again, I've been wrong before :)

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                                Kevin McFarlane
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                                I had a brief look at Scala a while back and it seems more accessible, though that could be illusory because its syntax is more familiar.

                                Kevin

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                                  Welll... yeeaah... but it doesn't belong in the toolbox, it doesn't appear on the form.

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                                  Luc Pattyn
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                                  The toolbox offers easy access to Controls (as in System.Windows.Forms.Control) and other Components (as in System.ComponentModel.Component), things one often needs, and having lots of properties. They include Timers, SerialPorts, BackgroundWorkers, etc. Dragging and configuring them through Designer makes sense to me. :)

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                                    I had a brief look at Scala a while back and it seems more accessible, though that could be illusory because its syntax is more familiar.

                                    Kevin

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                    Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                    I had a brief look at Scala a while back

                                    Interesting that you mention Scala in the same context as F#. I believe they play roughly equivalent role on their platforms. And I think they are both going to remain niche, although Scala probably has better chance of going mainstream because Java evolves slower than C# and VB so that may influence some Java developers to switch to Scala. On the .NET side, I am afraid we are going to continue enjoying the verbosity and clumsiness of C# and VB :)

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                                      The toolbox offers easy access to Controls (as in System.Windows.Forms.Control) and other Components (as in System.ComponentModel.Component), things one often needs, and having lots of properties. They include Timers, SerialPorts, BackgroundWorkers, etc. Dragging and configuring them through Designer makes sense to me. :)

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                      makes sense to me

                                      Then I guess you're in its demographic.

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                                        Do you think F# will take off next year or remain niche? My guess is that most developers will shun it because it seems too alien (personally I wouldn't shun it just because of that but developers are often surprisingly conservative).

                                        Kevin

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                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                        One area where F# has some promise is in Scientific and engineering computations. The other area where I think F# might be useful is in the area of DSLs (Domain specific languages). I am currently investigating in my free time how to use F# for Financial modeling.

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                          I had a brief look at Scala a while back

                                          Interesting that you mention Scala in the same context as F#. I believe they play roughly equivalent role on their platforms. And I think they are both going to remain niche, although Scala probably has better chance of going mainstream because Java evolves slower than C# and VB so that may influence some Java developers to switch to Scala. On the .NET side, I am afraid we are going to continue enjoying the verbosity and clumsiness of C# and VB :)

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                          Scala probably has better chance of going mainstream

                                          Twitter is a prominent user. It's written mostly in Ruby, Java and Scala.

                                          Kevin

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