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  • X Xiangyang Liu

    that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

    My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Some websites resize your browser. People who write such sites must be taken out and beaten to death with a mechanical keyboard. :|

    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      Some websites resize your browser. People who write such sites must be taken out and beaten to death with a mechanical keyboard. :|

      It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

      People who write such sites must be taken out and beaten to death with a mechanical keyboard.

      Seconded, motion carried :cool:

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      • X Xiangyang Liu

        that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

        My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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        Chris Losinger
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        in my experience, MS sites seem to be among the worst offenders.

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        • X Xiangyang Liu

          that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

          My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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          Chris Maunder
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          Your name? It's broken :sigh:

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          • X Xiangyang Liu

            that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

            My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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            Stuart Dootson
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            In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              Your name? It's broken :sigh:

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Xiangyang Liu
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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              Your name? It's broken

              ? It looks fine to me.

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                Some websites resize your browser. People who write such sites must be taken out and beaten to death with a mechanical keyboard. :|

                It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                TitanCerberus
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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                mechanical keyboard

                Like this[^]?

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  So, Silverlight and XPS are the answer? ;)

                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                    So, Silverlight and XPS are the answer? ;)

                    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                    Stuart Dootson
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                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    So, Silverlight and XPS are the answer?

                    Not while I've a breath left in my body :) And anyway, I can't view XPS on my Mac - PDF's fine on the Mac, though, as the OS has support built in - I don't even need to install Acrobat Reader (huzzah!) No. HTML, Javascript and Ajax do the job for me. I don't use IE, though, which means I don't have to deal with slow Javascript execution.

                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                    • S Stuart Dootson

                      In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!

                      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                      Single Step Debugger
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                      Some version of Flash Player not only freezes the IE7 but crash it instantly. Usually the people blame for this crashes IE or even Vista, because the real offender is not so obvious. We need to blame MS for their REAL sins, for example: MSDN sh*t, not the fake ones.

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        mechanical keyboard

                        Like this[^]?

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        That must make the task easier. :-\

                        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                        • X Xiangyang Liu

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          Your name? It's broken

                          ? It looks fine to me.

                          My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                          looks fine to me

                          I think it's the 刘向阳 that may not work in some regions. [Canada can't afford its own code page and shares half of the American and half of the French ones]


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                            Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                            looks fine to me

                            I think it's the 刘向阳 that may not work in some regions. [Canada can't afford its own code page and shares half of the American and half of the French ones]


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                            Xiangyang Liu
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                            I can see that fine, so it is not a problem on the server. If you don't have the proper language option installed on your computer, then you will see either ??? or three boxes.

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                            • X Xiangyang Liu

                              that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

                              My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                              Lost User
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                              Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                              It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too.

                              Have you tried IE 6 :-D

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                                In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!

                                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                BonshatS
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                                Same here. When mine freezes or crashes it's almost always Flash related.

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                                • X Xiangyang Liu

                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  Your name? It's broken

                                  ? It looks fine to me.

                                  My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  Oh that's weird. In IE8 it's broken. In FireFox it's perfect. The conspiracy continues!!

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  • X Xiangyang Liu

                                    that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

                                    My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                    John M Drescher
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                                    I don't recall ever browsing a site that does that. However most of my browsing is FF under 64 bit linux.

                                    John

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                                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                                      that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.

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                                      ToddHileHoffer
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                                      Some AJAX implementations are so awful. I'm not going to rip any particular company (K2) but this one vendor has an interface that loads one web page. Then instead of having multiple web pages, it simply puts the entire page in an ajax request. So you can view what are essentially many different pages but the URL never changes. It simply puts a dumb graphic on the page while loading. People seemed to have missed the point. AJAX should be used to updated a small section of a page. Many developers are just lazy (or ignorant) so they drop an entire Form inside a ASP.Net 3.5 AJAX panel and BAM! The page is the latest and greatest AJAX technology with no post backs. Only every time you click a button the damn thing locks up your browser and the entire page posts back anyway with added scripts. So the ajax request is actually slower than doing a full post back. It is ridiculous. **** End of rant.

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                                        Oh that's weird. In IE8 it's broken. In FireFox it's perfect. The conspiracy continues!!

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Xiangyang Liu
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                                        In IE8, select menu "View", "Encoding", "Unicode (UTF-8)", worked fine for me without doing this.

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                                        • S Stuart Dootson

                                          In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!

                                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          I find that it's requests for information that bogs things down, because they have to be constantly run through security procedures. I've noticed that the number of requests for information have multiplied geometrically, of late -- mainly requests from (Java, Flash, and/or Javascript) advertising banners, and the like. If it happens a lot on a site, I set one of my firewalls to "Don't do a damned thing without asking me!", then I note down the sources of the requests, map them to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file, and open the site again.

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