Have you noticed that there are more and more websites
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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I don't recall ever browsing a site that does that. However most of my browsing is FF under 64 bit linux.
John
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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Some AJAX implementations are so awful. I'm not going to rip any particular company (K2) but this one vendor has an interface that loads one web page. Then instead of having multiple web pages, it simply puts the entire page in an ajax request. So you can view what are essentially many different pages but the URL never changes. It simply puts a dumb graphic on the page while loading. People seemed to have missed the point. AJAX should be used to updated a small section of a page. Many developers are just lazy (or ignorant) so they drop an entire Form inside a ASP.Net 3.5 AJAX panel and BAM! The page is the latest and greatest AJAX technology with no post backs. Only every time you click a button the damn thing locks up your browser and the entire page posts back anyway with added scripts. So the ajax request is actually slower than doing a full post back. It is ridiculous. **** End of rant.
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Oh that's weird. In IE8 it's broken. In FireFox it's perfect. The conspiracy continues!!
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
In IE8, select menu "View", "Encoding", "Unicode (UTF-8)", worked fine for me without doing this.
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In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!
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I find that it's requests for information that bogs things down, because they have to be constantly run through security procedures. I've noticed that the number of requests for information have multiplied geometrically, of late -- mainly requests from (Java, Flash, and/or Javascript) advertising banners, and the like. If it happens a lot on a site, I set one of my firewalls to "Don't do a damned thing without asking me!", then I note down the sources of the requests, map them to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file, and open the site again.
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Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:
It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too.
Have you tried IE 6 :-D
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So, Silverlight and XPS are the answer? ;)
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Raj mate. Can I recommend you take silverblight and shove it up your [or whoever you can find's] rrrrr. [the rrrrr is because Chris doesn't like us saying arse. It's like gonads and scrotum. Forbidden!]
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In IE8, select menu "View", "Encoding", "Unicode (UTF-8)", worked fine for me without doing this.
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I think my IE8 on this machine is plain and simple broken
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Raj mate. Can I recommend you take silverblight and shove it up your [or whoever you can find's] rrrrr. [the rrrrr is because Chris doesn't like us saying arse. It's like gonads and scrotum. Forbidden!]
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Meh! I'm not a silvertight supporter as well. I do native language programming for that matter. :)
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I can see that fine, so it is not a problem on the server. If you don't have the proper language option installed on your computer, then you will see either ??? or three boxes.
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You don't have to install the language on your computer in order to see it displayed on your browser. It must be perfectly readable (he said he can see it in FF). No, I am not commenting about IE. :)
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Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:
It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too.
Have you tried IE 6 :-D
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And if that doesn't work, there's always IE 5. :laugh:
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I think my IE8 on this machine is plain and simple broken
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I think my IE8 on this machine is plain and simple broken
FTFY! [woot de woot - fixed Chris :-D]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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As with any multithreaded application it could be any number of things that are hogging the CPU cycles (Javascript UI libraries, AJAX, ActiveX, Flash, Silverlight, PDF, etc.). Anything that pushes the processing to the client side can have this effect.
Todd Smith
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I think my IE8 on this machine is plain and simple broken
FTFY! [woot de woot - fixed Chris :-D]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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In general, Ajax improves the responsiveness of websites in my experience. The things that slow down or freeze the browser (again, in my experience) tend to be Flash or PDFs - so it's all Adobe's fault!
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Nah PDF's don't freeze for a few seconds, they freeze for several minutes :) As do crappy java applets. They also inhibit scrolling through the rest of the page while they are loading.
harold aptroot wrote:
crappy java applets
Forgot about Java - it's not JUST Adobe's fault then!
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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CNET locks up my FF more than half the time.
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Oh that's weird. In IE8 it's broken. In FireFox it's perfect. The conspiracy continues!!
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
It's working perfectly in IE6. ;P
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:
P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
It is (or at least something in the cleaning category ;P ) It's also a soccer club : http://english.ajax.nl/[^]
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that will freeze your browser, and sometimes your whole computer, for several minutes? It doesn't matter if IE7 or IE8, for those who are about to recommend FF, it freezes FF, too. Should we blame this on AJAX or some other new annoying technology? P.S. For a long time I thought AJAX is a toilet cleaner.
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Hi, You cannot blame Ajax for this. The way its handled is the reason. If its synchronous then the browser hangs as it has to wait for the response it locks the browser. Please make it asynchronous and give a friendly error message when you want to cancel the operation or navigate away from that page. Thanks, Thani
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