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  • D Dalek Dave

    Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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    AndyInUK
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    Ye you definitely need a arse kicked and you should be placed over the ice plates and should use hunter to give you a good beating untill you cry for a mercy.. :laugh:

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      Stuart Dootson wrote:

      (I don't count myself as cool - I've barely graduated to HTML 4).

      That's "lukewarm"?

      Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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      I'm not hot, I'm not cool - you must be right :-)

      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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        JimmyRopes
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        The font element was deprecated in HTML 4.01, and is not supported in XHTML 1.0 Strict DTD. HTML <font> Tag[^]\ It might be time for an old dog to learn a new trick. What's a deprecated tag / attribute?[^]

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          I'm not hot, I'm not cool - you must be right :-)

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          Just slip into a pair o' pink tight pants and comb your hair into retro style, wear a 70s jacket and a hollywood style very large sun shades (should cover half the face, fake gem stones on the sides will fetch bonus points). Then, you'd just look cool. :cool: Did I mention about the rubber gum boots?

          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            Just slip into a pair o' pink tight pants and comb your hair into retro style, wear a 70s jacket and a hollywood style very large sun shades (should cover half the face, fake gem stones on the sides will fetch bonus points). Then, you'd just look cool. :cool: Did I mention about the rubber gum boots?

            It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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            Stuart Dootson
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            I always feel an affinity with Disco Stu[^] (the name thing, and my hair would look like his if I allowed it to grow - my nickname always used to be Art (Garfunkel)[^]). Would that be :cool: ?

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              I always feel an affinity with Disco Stu[^] (the name thing, and my hair would look like his if I allowed it to grow - my nickname always used to be Art (Garfunkel)[^]). Would that be :cool: ?

              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              Walking on a thin string, not knowing which side would the wind push you into - Geek/Nerd? The hair confirms nerd characteristics. Quoting reference from Simpsons Wikia - again, a strict nerd characteristic. :-D

              It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                Walking on a thin string, not knowing which side would the wind push you into - Geek/Nerd? The hair confirms nerd characteristics. Quoting reference from Simpsons Wikia - again, a strict nerd characteristic. :-D

                It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                Stuart Dootson
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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                The hair confirms nerd characteristics

                As I said, IF I let it grow that long...I have a strict #2[^] these days

                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                  The hair confirms nerd characteristics

                  As I said, IF I let it grow that long...I have a strict #2[^] these days

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  Ugh... I should have read it right. :-O

                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Use CSS. Seriously. FYI: If you do any web design, Stylizer[^] is one tool you really should know about. :cool:

                    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Myself and a colleague were discussing a redesign of the company website, and floating a few ideas around, writing   a few skeletal formats and suggesting contents and navigation etc. I hastily banged out an example, and he was in agreement that is was clear, uncluttered and easily followed, then asked me ... "Why do you change the text colour by using <FONT COLOR=RED>?   Why not just type <TEXT="#FF0000">? I opened and shut my mouth like a bewildered goldfish then admitted that after years of doing it that way, I had forgotten about TEXT! Damn you HTML, Damn you all to hell! Is there a convincing reason for doing it via font rather than text or am I right in assuming I need my arse kicking?

                      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                      catj
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                      In 2009, you should not be using FONT tags. Mark up your content as headings, paragraphs, lists, tables, and images, and then use CSS to style them. Remove all presentation code from the HTML markup. :)

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                      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                        Use CSS. Seriously. FYI: If you do any web design, Stylizer[^] is one tool you really should know about. :cool:

                        Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        Well, I was handcoding using notepad, (a real man here, none of that web design nonsense!), but have decided that we will go over to ASP. This is an old website and originally written some years ago. I have never used ASP before, so I had to lose the 'Real Man' status and I downloaded Vis Web Dev Exp 2008. So, now it is being designed with more functionality, but as I am not 100% familiar with either ASP or VWD I am still tending to do things a little HTML-like and getting told off by intellisense. Ho Hum, I suppose learning is like that, still onward and ever upward!

                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                          In 2009, you should not be using FONT tags. Mark up your content as headings, paragraphs, lists, tables, and images, and then use CSS to style them. Remove all presentation code from the HTML markup. :)

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          See my response to Anna (above), and you will see why my fingers are doing what they do! :)

                          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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