Programming language market share?
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Anybody got an idea about current programming language market shares? I found this index: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^], and it looks like C is still on no 2, and java on no 1, which surprised me (based on nothing ofcourse).
Wout
tiobe wrote:
The popular search engines Google, MSN, Yahoo!, Wikipedia and YouTube are used to calculate the ratings.
That site measures popularity, not market share.
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Information Overload. http://langpop.com/ Is strange though that c# appears not be as popular? Seems very different from what I know and spoke with others.
Could just be search autocomplete bugs in some of the listings. eg start typing "C# File IO" (or whatever) into a google search box. Auto complete drops the # symbol. That's at least one query skewed by google. Edit: Job listings are also suspect since lots of stuff gets larded on as wants that isn't actually used much (if at all) in the new position. eg wanting a new dev that knows every one of the companies legacy techs even though >90% of the workload will be on a single new tech.
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Information Overload. http://langpop.com/ Is strange though that c# appears not be as popular? Seems very different from what I know and spoke with others.
Neither tiobe nor lanpop measure market share. They have their own metrics of "popularity".
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Information Overload. http://langpop.com/ Is strange though that c# appears not be as popular? Seems very different from what I know and spoke with others.
Is devoted exclusively to the market of business software development on Windows. It really is a very small market. Rarely do I ever see a C# opportunity to do something actually fun. I would rather do Java or C++ in a scientific domain.
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Information Overload. http://langpop.com/ Is strange though that c# appears not be as popular? Seems very different from what I know and spoke with others.
In that article, they have considered JavaScript, even if Java is there, that is wrong. If you want to consider JavaScript then consider HTML also, and It will be at Top for sure... :)
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Anybody got an idea about current programming language market shares? I found this index: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^], and it looks like C is still on no 2, and java on no 1, which surprised me (based on nothing ofcourse).
Wout
:sigh: Tiobe has to be brought back into discussion every 3 or 4 months. Those stats are garbage because they talk about the number of search engine hits. That's like saying the majority of Java programmers aren't sure what to do so they google more often!
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:sigh: Tiobe has to be brought back into discussion every 3 or 4 months. Those stats are garbage because they talk about the number of search engine hits. That's like saying the majority of Java programmers aren't sure what to do so they google more often!
If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?
Are there better alternatives out there?
Wout
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Are there better alternatives out there?
Wout
Anything is better than such a silly metric, but I don't know of anyone that has done a proper study.
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Anything is better than such a silly metric, but I don't know of anyone that has done a proper study.
If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?
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A CP poll would be skewed by the kinds of people that come here. (Mostly .NET and C/C++ I would guess.)
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A CP poll would be skewed by the kinds of people that come here. (Mostly .NET and C/C++ I would guess.)
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Anybody got an idea about current programming language market shares? I found this index: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^], and it looks like C is still on no 2, and java on no 1, which surprised me (based on nothing ofcourse).
Wout
There is no such thing as programming language market share any more. It might have been true back in the day when everyone had to *buy* a programming language but no longer. There is almost no true "market" for programming languages in and of themselves. Personally I think it would be generally useful to have accurate stats showing languages used by *paid* programmers for completely *new* development. That would show you where the money is in being a programmer and not a maintenance guy or hobbyist.
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There is no such thing as programming language market share any more. It might have been true back in the day when everyone had to *buy* a programming language but no longer. There is almost no true "market" for programming languages in and of themselves. Personally I think it would be generally useful to have accurate stats showing languages used by *paid* programmers for completely *new* development. That would show you where the money is in being a programmer and not a maintenance guy or hobbyist.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
The trick is generating that stat's hard. Datamining google searches or sourceforge activity is easy. :doh: At an absolute minimum you'd need to be a respected industry institution to be able to do broadly scoped survey of corporations to find out what they're doing.
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Anything is better than such a silly metric, but I don't know of anyone that has done a proper study.
If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?
I'm not sure how you would measure something like that. There are a lot of legacy apps out there that are written in C and languages such as !arg! COBOL. Even though the trend has been to move away from those languages in favor of the newer ones it will take a long time to catch up as many companies have the approach "If it ain't broke don't fix it". Mike
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The trick is generating that stat's hard. Datamining google searches or sourceforge activity is easy. :doh: At an absolute minimum you'd need to be a respected industry institution to be able to do broadly scoped survey of corporations to find out what they're doing.
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
"respected industry institution" - surely an oxymoron, suggested alternative "relevant academic institution"
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"respected industry institution" - surely an oxymoron, suggested alternative "relevant academic institution"
Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur.(Pliny)
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In that article, they have considered JavaScript, even if Java is there, that is wrong. If you want to consider JavaScript then consider HTML also, and It will be at Top for sure... :)
HTML isn't a programming language but layout language.
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So you mean CP is most objective source for programming language usage research?
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