Maybe Microsoft needs to...
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I'll see your pen and paper killer app and raise you fire (and the skills required to create fire) as a better and more necessary killer app.
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
martin_hughes wrote:
I'll see your pen and paper killer app and raise you fire (and the skills required to create fire) as a better and more necessary killer app.
I think you have just distilled to its essence the core problem with human nature. :-D Marc
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
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Easier said that done. I won't go as far as to say there are no more killer apps, but they're not easy to find any longer. Also even the most optimistic uptake schedule's going to give lots of time for the penguins to write cross platform versions that run fine on XP. :rolleyes:
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
Hmm...
- A good virtual desktop product. Yes, there are tons of these... and they all suck. Good integration with the new taskbar could do wonders...
- The sticky note thing has potential - they just need to add reminders, better organizing, persistence, search, ability to attach arbitrary files + images + links, and the ability to attach the notes to other apps and/or documents (i'd love to be able to annotate arbitrary emails for example, or attach emails to notes).
- Built-in DVD ripping would be fantastic, well complimented by the new library and tagging features. Unfortunately, also illegal.
BTW: if you have a good, easy idea and like contests, there's this[^]...
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Hmm...
- A good virtual desktop product. Yes, there are tons of these... and they all suck. Good integration with the new taskbar could do wonders...
- The sticky note thing has potential - they just need to add reminders, better organizing, persistence, search, ability to attach arbitrary files + images + links, and the ability to attach the notes to other apps and/or documents (i'd love to be able to annotate arbitrary emails for example, or attach emails to notes).
- Built-in DVD ripping would be fantastic, well complimented by the new library and tagging features. Unfortunately, also illegal.
BTW: if you have a good, easy idea and like contests, there's this[^]...
Shog9 wrote:
BTW: if you have a good, easy idea and like contests, there's this[^]...
I looked at the terms and conditions -
T&C'sdiv>No purchase necessary. Void in Cuba; Iran; North Korea; Sudan and the Province of Quebec, Canada.
Yes, we're on to you Quebec - you hive of terrorist activity!
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
The killer app is to end-of-life XP. Hence, end "free" support of XP. Hence, business will adopt the new version of windows, vista for some (the more stupid or adventurous early adopters) or, like the organization I work for, leapfrog vista and go to Weven. Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been. Just my $0.00002.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
There won't be a killer app for some time go come. We had a big shift in technology when apps moved from DOS to Win16 (1992) and then a few years later with the shift to Win32 (1995). Neither 64-bit computing, multi-core or software stacks like WPF etc. will result in such a shift. Don't know when we move from Windows as we know it to something new, but I doubt it will happen within the next 5 years. That's why XP (and basically also Win2000) will be good for an other 5 years.
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The killer app is to end-of-life XP. Hence, end "free" support of XP. Hence, business will adopt the new version of windows, vista for some (the more stupid or adventurous early adopters) or, like the organization I work for, leapfrog vista and go to Weven. Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been. Just my $0.00002.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been.
You forgot a step or 2 there... Win98 is what Win95 should have been. WinXP is what WinME should have been. All of the good features of XP debuted in ME...they just didn't work well and the OS was unstable.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been.
You forgot a step or 2 there... Win98 is what Win95 should have been. WinXP is what WinME should have been. All of the good features of XP debuted in ME...they just didn't work well and the OS was unstable.
kinar wrote:
Win98 is what Win95 should have been.
I disagree. Win95b is what Win95 should have been. I never liked Win98 with the integration of IE (aka Active Desktop / Explorer etc.)
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been.
You forgot a step or 2 there... Win98 is what Win95 should have been. WinXP is what WinME should have been. All of the good features of XP debuted in ME...they just didn't work well and the OS was unstable.
i disagree. Win95 was a viable release. Neither Win98 nor WinME should ever have seen the light of day, so too with Vista. All three are unstable, unusable pieces of shize.
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kinar wrote:
Win98 is what Win95 should have been.
I disagree. Win95b is what Win95 should have been. I never liked Win98 with the integration of IE (aka Active Desktop / Explorer etc.)
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Shog9 wrote:
BTW: if you have a good, easy idea and like contests, there's this[^]...
I looked at the terms and conditions -
T&C'sdiv>No purchase necessary. Void in Cuba; Iran; North Korea; Sudan and the Province of Quebec, Canada.
Yes, we're on to you Quebec - you hive of terrorist activity!
print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?
martin_hughes wrote:
T&C'sdiv>No purchase necessary. Void in Cuba; Iran; North Korea; Sudan and the Province of Quebec, Canada. Yes, we're on to you Quebec - you hive of terrorist activity!
Not terrorism, it's goobermint racketeering[^] that is to blame. Most contest sponsors just refuse to jump through hoops and throw money and the Quebec Goobermint. Anytime quebeccers get sufficiently fed up with being tossed out with scum every time they try and enter a context they just need to elect politicians to change the law. In the mean time, they've peed their bed and get to lie in it. :doh:
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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i disagree. Win95 was a viable release. Neither Win98 nor WinME should ever have seen the light of day, so too with Vista. All three are unstable, unusable pieces of shize.
win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
Microsoft should buy Blizzard and make their games require W7. That would drive a few sales for all the addicts :mad: The other "killer app" could come in the form of XP vulnerabilities and better security provided by W7.
Todd Smith
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i disagree. Win95 was a viable release. Neither Win98 nor WinME should ever have seen the light of day, so too with Vista. All three are unstable, unusable pieces of shize.
and yet the only box i've had crash to reboot on me in three years is my XP box. multiple times. and the only box to lock up totally? multiple times? XP.
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kinar wrote:
Win98 is what Win95 should have been.
I disagree. Win95b is what Win95 should have been. I never liked Win98 with the integration of IE (aka Active Desktop / Explorer etc.)
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win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
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win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
Actually I have used Vista -- I have a laptop with it installed. Use it every day. I actually do like a lot about it, and I'm not talking about the "eye candy" -- but it is slow and piggish. Unnecessarily so. Also, many programs that ran fine under XP run much slower under Vista, sometimes 50% slower. You are correct WinXP-sp2/3 is much, much better than WinXP. In my experience, most of the reasons for people having problems with any windows version occurs after the installation of 3rd party drivers. Also, Vista 64 bit is much, much more stable and usable than Vista 32 bit. And no, I don't go twiddling with the innards, except I do go set different options through the standard OS options dialogs. Usually in an attempt to make things speedier and more usable (to my liking).
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and yet the only box i've had crash to reboot on me in three years is my XP box. multiple times. and the only box to lock up totally? multiple times? XP.
what 3rd party drivers do you have installed? is this a home-grown box?
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Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Well John, you know, it depends ... if they mean "killer app" as in "The last time he used Visual Studio, it crashed, he lost 3 hours of work, had a heart attack and died" ... then I think they've nailed it.
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