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  • M martin_hughes

    Shog9 wrote:

    BTW: if you have a good, easy idea and like contests, there's this[^]...

    I looked at the terms and conditions -

    T&C'sdiv>No purchase necessary. Void in Cuba; Iran; North Korea; Sudan and the Province of Quebec, Canada.

    Yes, we're on to you Quebec - you hive of terrorist activity!

    print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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    martin_hughes wrote:

    T&C'sdiv>No purchase necessary. Void in Cuba; Iran; North Korea; Sudan and the Province of Quebec, Canada. Yes, we're on to you Quebec - you hive of terrorist activity!

    Not terrorism, it's goobermint racketeering[^] that is to blame. Most contest sponsors just refuse to jump through hoops and throw money and the Quebec Goobermint. Anytime quebeccers get sufficiently fed up with being tossed out with scum every time they try and enter a context they just need to elect politicians to change the law. In the mean time, they've peed their bed and get to lie in it. :doh:

    The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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    • R Rocky Moore

      Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

      Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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      realJSOP
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      Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        i disagree. Win95 was a viable release. Neither Win98 nor WinME should ever have seen the light of day, so too with Vista. All three are unstable, unusable pieces of shize.

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        win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.

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        • R Rocky Moore

          Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

          Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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          Todd Smith
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          Microsoft should buy Blizzard and make their games require W7. That would drive a few sales for all the addicts :mad: The other "killer app" could come in the form of XP vulnerabilities and better security provided by W7.

          Todd Smith

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            i disagree. Win95 was a viable release. Neither Win98 nor WinME should ever have seen the light of day, so too with Vista. All three are unstable, unusable pieces of shize.

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            Chris Losinger
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            and yet the only box i've had crash to reboot on me in three years is my XP box. multiple times. and the only box to lock up totally? multiple times? XP.

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            • A Andre xxxxxxx

              kinar wrote:

              Win98 is what Win95 should have been.

              I disagree. Win95b is what Win95 should have been. I never liked Win98 with the integration of IE (aka Active Desktop / Explorer etc.)

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              Shog9 0
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              Win98SE was a good deal better than Win95 - you could turn off the Active Desktop crap. Faster, better driver support... the parallels with Weven are pretty solid.

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                win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.

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                Shog9 0
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                kinar wrote:

                Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games).

                Some of us were actually using those resources...

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                  win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  Actually I have used Vista -- I have a laptop with it installed. Use it every day. I actually do like a lot about it, and I'm not talking about the "eye candy" -- but it is slow and piggish. Unnecessarily so. Also, many programs that ran fine under XP run much slower under Vista, sometimes 50% slower. You are correct WinXP-sp2/3 is much, much better than WinXP. In my experience, most of the reasons for people having problems with any windows version occurs after the installation of 3rd party drivers. Also, Vista 64 bit is much, much more stable and usable than Vista 32 bit. And no, I don't go twiddling with the innards, except I do go set different options through the standard OS options dialogs. Usually in an attempt to make things speedier and more usable (to my liking).

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                    and yet the only box i've had crash to reboot on me in three years is my XP box. multiple times. and the only box to lock up totally? multiple times? XP.

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                    what 3rd party drivers do you have installed? is this a home-grown box?

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Douglas Troy
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                      Well John, you know, it depends ... if they mean "killer app" as in "The last time he used Visual Studio, it crashed, he lost 3 hours of work, had a heart attack and died" ... then I think they've nailed it.


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                        kinar wrote:

                        Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games).

                        Some of us were actually using those resources...

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                        kinar
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                        some of you might have been...but almost noone who use the OS are...even if they claim to be. By "almost noone", I would guess less than .001% (thats one person in every 100,000) actually use all the extra resources. For all practical purposes, it is idle CPU cycles that Vista uses.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Didn't you develop some Missile control systems in Visual Studio at one point of time? That is sure a Killer app.

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                          • R Rocky Moore

                            Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

                            Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                            Single Step Debugger
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                            There is one, they called it DirectX10.

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                              some of you might have been...but almost noone who use the OS are...even if they claim to be. By "almost noone", I would guess less than .001% (thats one person in every 100,000) actually use all the extra resources. For all practical purposes, it is idle CPU cycles that Vista uses.

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                              Shog9 0
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                              kinar wrote:

                              For all practical purposes, it is idle CPU cycles that Vista uses.

                              Great idea. Didn't happen. When Vista SP1 takes longer to open a browser window than XP SP1 on the same machine, all the idle cycles that Vista was using prior to my asking for a new browser window might as well have been wasted.

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                Didn't you develop some Missile control systems in Visual Studio at one point of time? That is sure a Killer app.

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                                Single Step Debugger
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                                Yeah, right – you could build it using Java and some crapy IDE like NetBeans, but form other hand, who needs a missiles with 35 M/Ph maximum velocity?

                                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                  what 3rd party drivers do you have installed? is this a home-grown box?

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  they're all Dells. and they all have the same basic set of apps. nothing fancy.

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                                  • R Rocky Moore

                                    Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

                                    Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                    • R Rocky Moore

                                      Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

                                      Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                      J Dunlap
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                                      It's not Vista - isn't that enough to pump sales? :-)

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                                      • R Rocky Moore

                                        Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

                                        Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                        Lost User
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                                        The EU would sue their pants of for using illegal product promoting techniques?

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                                        • R Rocky Moore

                                          Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?

                                          Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                          urbane tiger
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                                          How about an Associative Object Synthesis and Storage System - I'd love one of those.

                                          Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur.(Pliny)

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