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    Jammer 0
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    Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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      Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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      I believe that VS2003 comes with WTF. :)

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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        Jammer wrote:

        've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ...

        great! they didn't ask you to work on visual studio 5 or cobol :-)

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          Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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          <Sarcasm>That'll teach you to keep up with the latest.</Sarcasm> :-D

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            Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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            Michael Bookatz
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            Don't complain - Some people here would love to be in your shoes, anything to get away from WPF.

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              Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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              You might be better off...

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              • H Henry Minute

                I believe that VS2003 comes with WTF. :)

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                haha!

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                  Jammer wrote:

                  've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ...

                  great! they didn't ask you to work on visual studio 5 or cobol :-)

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                  I guess everything has a silver lining if you look hard enough!

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                    <Sarcasm>That'll teach you to keep up with the latest.</Sarcasm> :-D

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                    .NET 4.0 is on the way!!! And I'm going backwards!! No fair!

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                    • M Michael Bookatz

                      Don't complain - Some people here would love to be in your shoes, anything to get away from WPF.

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                      No way man ... WPF rocks!

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                        No way man ... WPF rocks!

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                        Just search at the top of the screen "Why WP sucks" and you will see why some people (like JSOP ) will envy you!

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                          Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          There's ah uge difference between doing what MS want you to do, which WPF does very well, and doing what you want to do. The lower the level, not that C# is low level, of the language, the more flexible it becomes. On the flip, the higher level requires less lines of code for /standard/ operations.


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                            Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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                            I spend my day switching back and forth between VS2008/C#/.NET/WPF and VS2003/C++/MFC. and they wonder why I twitch...

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                              I spend my day switching back and forth between VS2008/C#/.NET/WPF and VS2003/C++/MFC. and they wonder why I twitch...

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              I didn't realize that MS made any non-trivial changes to C++/MFC since 2k3, what's blocking your upgrading the legacy apps to the new compiler?

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                                I didn't realize that MS made any non-trivial changes to C++/MFC since 2k3, what's blocking your upgrading the legacy apps to the new compiler?

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                                Mainly a moderate amount of recoding needed to get around the deprecated C runtime library functions, changes to ATL functionality, plus all the regression testing required. Our legacy application is approximately 500,000 lines of C++/MFC, which would probably require 2-3 months to port to the new environment with no net benefit. The Big New Thing™ is being developed using C#/.NET/WPF for the UI, and new service code developed in C++ using some utilities ported from the legacy stuff. The funny thing is, it took less time for me to write the utilities in C# from scratch than it took to make the ported legacy code compatible with the VS2008 C++ compiler :rolleyes:.

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                                  Mainly a moderate amount of recoding needed to get around the deprecated C runtime library functions, changes to ATL functionality, plus all the regression testing required. Our legacy application is approximately 500,000 lines of C++/MFC, which would probably require 2-3 months to port to the new environment with no net benefit. The Big New Thing™ is being developed using C#/.NET/WPF for the UI, and new service code developed in C++ using some utilities ported from the legacy stuff. The funny thing is, it took less time for me to write the utilities in C# from scratch than it took to make the ported legacy code compatible with the VS2008 C++ compiler :rolleyes:.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Is The Big New Thing™ going to replace the legacy app, or are you just pillaging its codebase...

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                                    Is The Big New Thing™ going to replace the legacy app, or are you just pillaging its codebase...

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                                    Hopefully/eventually yes to the first, and partially yes to the second. "Pillaging" might be a tad judgmental a term for what we're doing. We've got a very mature and nicely capable library of C++ utilities for the type of distributed process control applications we develop. It includes utilities for building Windows services, thread management, TCP/IP socket communications, etc. That library is what we've ported from VS2003 to VS2008. We've left behind the prior UI and its COM-based plug-in architecture, along with the remainder of the existing service code.

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                                      Oh Man, I've just spent the last 1.5 years working with WPF ... I've just been reassigned to a new project ... that requires me to ... install ... urgh! ... VS2003 ... ARHHHHHHH!! HELP!

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Why?

                                      Jammer wrote:

                                      I've just been reassigned to a new project

                                      Jammer wrote:

                                      VS2003

                                      That kinda argues that it's not a new project.

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                                        Why?

                                        Jammer wrote:

                                        I've just been reassigned to a new project

                                        Jammer wrote:

                                        VS2003

                                        That kinda argues that it's not a new project.

                                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        If you need to support legacy OSes, 2k3 is the latest version that will create .net apps that run on NT4.

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                                          I believe that VS2003 comes with WTF. :)

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                                          urbane tiger
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                                          Nuh they deprecated that too

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