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  • L Lost User

    I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

    Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

    Requirements:
    a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
    b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
    little birds knock the feed to the ground.
    c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

    This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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    TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

    How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed

    Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

    TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

    The pegions can't feed at the feeder.

    Peg Ions? Is that a wooden leg that has stepped in Charged Bacon Particles? You seem to be speaking Pidgeon English! (Or is that Pidgin??)

    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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      I would probably sit outside with a pellet gun and take out the pigeons when they land on the feeder. If I was up for a real challenge, I'd stand off about 50 yards and use a 22 rifle. Sometimes, brute force is the best way to approach a problem (and sometimes, it's more fun). Of course, you could always put the feeder inside a wire mesh cage with access holes large enough for small birds but too small for pigeons...

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      feeder in wire mesh vs small arms fire The former requires less effort but the later sure is fun.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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        Put the bird house on the ground. sheesh!


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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        Lost User
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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Put the bird house on the ground. sheesh!

        Hmm, might work. But supose you have larger song brids that feed as well. How would they get the food?

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          And logic jumps out from behind a rock and slaps him upside the head! :)

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Very good Mufasa, you are getting close to illumination.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

            How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed

            Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

            TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

            The pegions can't feed at the feeder.

            Peg Ions? Is that a wooden leg that has stepped in Charged Bacon Particles? You seem to be speaking Pidgeon English! (Or is that Pidgin??)

            ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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            realJSOP
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            It's "pigeon". There is no "d". Of course that could be a time frame that relates to pigs, kinda like "dog years".

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              I would probably sit outside with a pellet gun and take out the pigeons when they land on the feeder. If I was up for a real challenge, I'd stand off about 50 yards and use a 22 rifle. Sometimes, brute force is the best way to approach a problem (and sometimes, it's more fun). Of course, you could always put the feeder inside a wire mesh cage with access holes large enough for small birds but too small for pigeons...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
              -----
              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Lost User
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              Hahaha, Yeah I asked an extirimanitor what the best way was after researching all the popular methods: Holographic Mylar, Fake owls, Baloons with eyes on them, recordings of birds in distress, dead pegion decoys (supose to work for Geese). He told me the best way was a .22 cal or pellet gun. I really didn't want to see my Father being hauled off by the men in white coats...

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I would probably sit outside with a pellet gun and take out the pigeons when they land on the feeder. If I was up for a real challenge, I'd stand off about 50 yards and use a 22 rifle. Sometimes, brute force is the best way to approach a problem (and sometimes, it's more fun). Of course, you could always put the feeder inside a wire mesh cage with access holes large enough for small birds but too small for pigeons...

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                NormDroid
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                Laser sight or not. More fun without I suppose, what about night feeders, opting for Night Viz or not? All this to take into account. :)

                Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                  TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                  How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed

                  Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

                  TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                  The pegions can't feed at the feeder.

                  Peg Ions? Is that a wooden leg that has stepped in Charged Bacon Particles? You seem to be speaking Pidgeon English! (Or is that Pidgin??)

                  ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                  Lost User
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                  Okay, get Chris to put Spell Check on these WYSIWIG editors and my dyslexia won't shine through so much.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    It's "pigeon". There is no "d". Of course that could be a time frame that relates to pigs, kinda like "dog years".

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    so how many pig eons in a dog year then smarty pants?


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                      How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed

                      Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

                      TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                      The pegions can't feed at the feeder.

                      Peg Ions? Is that a wooden leg that has stepped in Charged Bacon Particles? You seem to be speaking Pidgeon English! (Or is that Pidgin??)

                      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                      Michael Schubert
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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Peg Ions?

                      That's what Peg Bundy produces after 8 hours of Oprah.

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                      • N NormDroid

                        Laser sight or not. More fun without I suppose, what about night feeders, opting for Night Viz or not? All this to take into account. :)

                        Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Norm .net wrote:

                        what about night feed

                        Use heat sensors.


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          It's "pigeon". There is no "d". Of course that could be a time frame that relates to pigs, kinda like "dog years".

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Pigeon in a Bird Pidgin is a language Pidgeon is a Actor called Walter!

                          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                            Laser sight or not. More fun without I suppose, what about night feeders, opting for Night Viz or not? All this to take into account. :)

                            Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                            Lost User
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                            Day or night does not matter.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              Put the bird house on the ground. sheesh!

                              Hmm, might work. But supose you have larger song brids that feed as well. How would they get the food?

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              The larger birds have to go on a diet. No one likes a fat bird around here.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                so how many pig eons in a dog year then smarty pants?


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                eons

                                Do you mean aeons?

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                                  How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed

                                  Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

                                  TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                                  The pegions can't feed at the feeder.

                                  Peg Ions? Is that a wooden leg that has stepped in Charged Bacon Particles? You seem to be speaking Pidgeon English! (Or is that Pidgin??)

                                  ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                  ricmil42
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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  TheArchitectmc∞ wrote: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed Pig Ions? Is that a charged Bacon Particle?

                                  OH! That's a 5!!!

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Day or night does not matter.

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                                    NormDroid
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                                    It does for shooting.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Pigeon in a Bird Pidgin is a language Pidgeon is a Actor called Walter!

                                      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      Pigeon in a Bird

                                      :doh: :doh:

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                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        eons

                                        Do you mean aeons?

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        JSOP started it!


                                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

                                          Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

                                          Requirements:
                                          a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
                                          b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
                                          little birds knock the feed to the ground.
                                          c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

                                          This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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                                          Member 1709723
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                                          put feeder on island in middle of pool with sharks with freekin' lasers coded to auto fire at pigeon shaped/sized birds ..ha, you call this a challenge...

                                          Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net

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