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When will MS axe XP support?

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    Todd Smith
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    Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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      Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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      Henry Minute
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      I would think that by the time Weven overtakes XP the extra resources required will be standard for low end machines. The Grannies et al. can and will continue to run XP regardless, until their machines expire that is. That's when the trouble will start, for any one with a Silver-Surfer in the family, I can just hear the support calls now.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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        martin_hughes
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        Given the XP mode in Weven (basically Virtual PC with a pre-activated image of XP) I think XP support will be with us for sometime yet.

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          Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

          Todd Smith

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          realJSOP
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          Long after the end of the Mayan calendar. Given that fact, I doubt any of us will live to see Microsoft stop shipping XP.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Given the XP mode in Weven (basically Virtual PC with a pre-activated image of XP) I think XP support will be with us for sometime yet.

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            XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Dalek Dave
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              Wait till Granny comes to visit!

              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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              • T Todd Smith

                Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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                Jon Sagara
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                According to this[^], it still has about 5 years left (in the U.S., anyway).

                Jon Sagara Some see the glass as half-empty, some see the glass as half-full. I see the glass as too big. -- George Carlin .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles

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                  Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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                  LloydA111
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                  I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:

                  If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Long after the end of the Mayan calendar. Given that fact, I doubt any of us will live to see Microsoft stop shipping XP.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    The end of the mayan calendar is only 2012 :laugh:

                    If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...

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                    • T Todd Smith

                      Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      As some earlier pointed out, the official chart lists 2014 for extended support. OEMS who request it, got an extension to 2010 to install XP (probably to cover the Windows 7 release.) However, full support already ended two months ago and the world didn't end. For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K. (The Embedded XP incarnation of Windows Embedded support expires in 2017.)

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                        I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:

                        If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        It is because it evolves over a period of time. When something has evolved, and is very stable, MS comes out with another version which isn't as good.

                        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                        • T Todd Smith

                          Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

                          Todd Smith

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                          Dave Parker
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                          Pah, I still run a combination of XP, Windows 95, Amiga OS 3.0 and Amiga OS 1.3 depending on what I'm doing. What does XP support mean anyway? Is it something to do with product activation or getting new licenses? Could always go back to Win 2000 I guess.

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                            Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.

                            Todd Smith

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                            You could just use it without "support" - so what is all the talk about the End of the World about? People will still use it when it's not supported anymore. I will continue to use XP x64 until Weven (or Weight or later) proves to be better, with my own definition of better which is too complex to quickly post. I may still like XP better by the time it loses support, or maybe not, who knows? It's the future.. By the way, for anyone wondering how to get rid of that crazy "System partition" (wrong! every partition is MY partition, since it's MY harddisk!), you can not un-create it, but you can delete the Other Partition and then expand the "system" partition to fill as much space as you want - later after it's installed you can take ownership over the root and happily control all your files. Rejoice, your bytes are yours again, the way it should be.

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                              You could just use it without "support" - so what is all the talk about the End of the World about? People will still use it when it's not supported anymore. I will continue to use XP x64 until Weven (or Weight or later) proves to be better, with my own definition of better which is too complex to quickly post. I may still like XP better by the time it loses support, or maybe not, who knows? It's the future.. By the way, for anyone wondering how to get rid of that crazy "System partition" (wrong! every partition is MY partition, since it's MY harddisk!), you can not un-create it, but you can delete the Other Partition and then expand the "system" partition to fill as much space as you want - later after it's installed you can take ownership over the root and happily control all your files. Rejoice, your bytes are yours again, the way it should be.

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                              By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

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                                By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

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                                Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux :)

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                                  XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

                                  Maybe you don't have any hanging around but support for 16 bit programs is probably the main consideration.

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                                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                    I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:

                                    If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...

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                                    Lloyd Atkinson©☺ wrote:

                                    I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better

                                    People just don't like to change regardless of if the change is good or not, they just don't like to change.

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.

                                      Maybe you don't have any hanging around but support for 16 bit programs is probably the main consideration.

                                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                      Nope - I dumped all my 16-bit stuff when I moved to Win64 (a couple of years ago).

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        As some earlier pointed out, the official chart lists 2014 for extended support. OEMS who request it, got an extension to 2010 to install XP (probably to cover the Windows 7 release.) However, full support already ended two months ago and the world didn't end. For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K. (The Embedded XP incarnation of Windows Embedded support expires in 2017.)

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                                        Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                        For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K.

                                        This is a point I bring up whenever someone says they they don't want to move forward. I ask them if they would prefer to be using the 3.11 interface. Products evolve, usually for the better.

                                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                          By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

                                          Todd Smith

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                                          JimmyRopes
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                                          Todd Smith wrote:

                                          By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.

                                          An excellent reason to upgrade. I remember when WinXP SP1 came out and people were grousing about if they should install it or not. I always pointed out the gazillion security updates they would have to install manually if they didn't update. That usually motivated them to install the service pack.

                                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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