When will MS axe XP support?
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Given the XP mode in Weven (basically Virtual PC with a pre-activated image of XP) I think XP support will be with us for sometime yet.
XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Wait till Granny comes to visit!
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Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.
Todd Smith
According to this[^], it still has about 5 years left (in the U.S., anyway).
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Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.
Todd Smith
I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:
If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...
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Long after the end of the Mayan calendar. Given that fact, I doubt any of us will live to see Microsoft stop shipping XP.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.
Todd Smith
As some earlier pointed out, the official chart lists 2014 for extended support. OEMS who request it, got an extension to 2010 to install XP (probably to cover the Windows 7 release.) However, full support already ended two months ago and the world didn't end. For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K. (The Embedded XP incarnation of Windows Embedded support expires in 2017.)
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I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:
If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...
It is because it evolves over a period of time. When something has evolved, and is very stable, MS comes out with another version which isn't as good.
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Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.
Todd Smith
Pah, I still run a combination of XP, Windows 95, Amiga OS 3.0 and Amiga OS 1.3 depending on what I'm doing. What does XP support mean anyway? Is it something to do with product activation or getting new licenses? Could always go back to Win 2000 I guess.
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Do you think nerds around the world will riot when this happens? Will the entire interwebs come crumbling down in defiance or will XP just go softly into the night? Weven takes more resources than XP to run correct? I can't imagine all those grandmas are going to upgrade their computers still running XP just because Gates and Seinfeld come back with another horrible commercial.
Todd Smith
You could just use it without "support" - so what is all the talk about the End of the World about? People will still use it when it's not supported anymore. I will continue to use XP x64 until Weven (or Weight or later) proves to be better, with my own definition of better which is too complex to quickly post. I may still like XP better by the time it loses support, or maybe not, who knows? It's the future.. By the way, for anyone wondering how to get rid of that crazy "System partition" (wrong! every partition is MY partition, since it's MY harddisk!), you can not un-create it, but you can delete the Other Partition and then expand the "system" partition to fill as much space as you want - later after it's installed you can take ownership over the root and happily control all your files. Rejoice, your bytes are yours again, the way it should be.
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You could just use it without "support" - so what is all the talk about the End of the World about? People will still use it when it's not supported anymore. I will continue to use XP x64 until Weven (or Weight or later) proves to be better, with my own definition of better which is too complex to quickly post. I may still like XP better by the time it loses support, or maybe not, who knows? It's the future.. By the way, for anyone wondering how to get rid of that crazy "System partition" (wrong! every partition is MY partition, since it's MY harddisk!), you can not un-create it, but you can delete the Other Partition and then expand the "system" partition to fill as much space as you want - later after it's installed you can take ownership over the root and happily control all your files. Rejoice, your bytes are yours again, the way it should be.
By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.
Todd Smith
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By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.
Todd Smith
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XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.
Maybe you don't have any hanging around but support for 16 bit programs is probably the main consideration.
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I hope they never will stop supporting it:~ I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better :laugh:
If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Im so confused...
Lloyd Atkinson©☺ wrote:
I remember when it first came out everyone complained about it saying Win98/2000 was better, but now everyone complains about Vista and 7 and says XP is better
People just don't like to change regardless of if the change is good or not, they just don't like to change.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
XP Mode is one of the most pointless features of Weven. I haven't run into anything yet that requires me to use XP Mode.
Maybe you don't have any hanging around but support for 16 bit programs is probably the main consideration.
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesNope - I dumped all my 16-bit stuff when I moved to Win64 (a couple of years ago).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
As some earlier pointed out, the official chart lists 2014 for extended support. OEMS who request it, got an extension to 2010 to install XP (probably to cover the Windows 7 release.) However, full support already ended two months ago and the world didn't end. For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K. (The Embedded XP incarnation of Windows Embedded support expires in 2017.)
Joe Woodbury wrote:
For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K.
This is a point I bring up whenever someone says they they don't want to move forward. I ask them if they would prefer to be using the 3.11 interface. Products evolve, usually for the better.
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
By support I mostly mean patches for security related issues.
An excellent reason to upgrade. I remember when WinXP SP1 came out and people were grousing about if they should install it or not. I always pointed out the gazillion security updates they would have to install manually if they didn't update. That usually motivated them to install the service pack.
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Pah, I still run a combination of XP, Windows 95, Amiga OS 3.0 and Amiga OS 1.3 depending on what I'm doing. What does XP support mean anyway? Is it something to do with product activation or getting new licenses? Could always go back to Win 2000 I guess.
Dave Parker wrote:
What does XP support mean anyway?
Security updates, drivers, service packs...
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harold aptroot wrote:
Well if I wanted security I would be using Linux
Linux (the kernel) is pretty secure these days, but you usually want more than the kernel and that's when the problems start. A typical Linux desktop distro is no more secure than Windows.
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
For those who wring their hands, this is what happened with DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 98, NT 4 and to a smaller extent W2K.
This is a point I bring up whenever someone says they they don't want to move forward. I ask them if they would prefer to be using the 3.11 interface. Products evolve, usually for the better.
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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Nope - I dumped all my 16-bit stuff when I moved to Win64 (a couple of years ago).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001How did you find that transition? I'm considering installing Weven-x64, but I can remember reading quite a few bad reviews of XP-x64 a few years ago (mostly about bad device drivers.) Have you experienced anything like those problems?
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