Jobless IT graduate sues her college
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It seems that people now accept no responsibility for anything at all. Twice, I was unemployed (due to recession), and I didn't see it as anybody's direct fault.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Twice, I was unemployed (due to recession), and I didn't see it as anybody's direct fault.
Are you sure it wasn't Monroe Colleges fault? You should look into that ;)
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Does she need employment if she wins the case ;)
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Hey, I think she deserves every penny of.... of..... *cracks up*.... Sorry, can't even type that with a straight face. I just want to assure everyone that the rest of us New Yorkers are not nearly that stupid. Not all of us, at least.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
I read this earlier myself and said to myself, "WTF?" What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job? Let's face it, she hasn't found her perfect dream job. It says nothing if she has looked for something similar or even a lower wage paying job for the meantime.
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Agreed. I saw she sued for 70K USD only. she would have added 150K for causing mental trauma and 150K more for loss of valuable time. ;P
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Twice, I was unemployed (due to recession), and I didn't see it as anybody's direct fault.
That sounds difficult - glad things have worked out ok. I am glad to be in a job and a pay freeze means very little at the moment against job security :)
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
GuyThiebaut wrote:
That sounds difficult - glad things have worked out ok.
Thanks - this was 20 years ago. Now that's a frightening thought.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Agreed. I saw she sued for 70K USD only. she would have added 150K for causing mental trauma and 150K more for loss of valuable time. ;P
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I read this earlier myself and said to myself, "WTF?" What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job? Let's face it, she hasn't found her perfect dream job. It says nothing if she has looked for something similar or even a lower wage paying job for the meantime.
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leckey wrote:
What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job?
Poor girl didnt learn that colleges guarantee learning, not jobs.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Although suing the college is a complete nonsense, I do feel for a lot of the young'uns now entering the workplace. Saddled with debt, very few opportunities for a low paid job, let alone a decent paying one, jobs getting off-shored left-right and centre, house prices bordering on waaaaaay past the ridiculous for the most crummy of one-bed digs... not a happy place to be. Still, there are opportunities out there and it'll just take a lot more gumption and perseverance to hunt them down. And give it five years and I expect things will have improved no end.
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leckey wrote:
What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job?
Poor girl didnt learn that colleges guarantee learning, not jobs.
Pravarakhya wrote:
colleges guarantee learning
Does it?
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Pravarakhya wrote:
colleges guarantee learning
Does it?
Well, it should. If a college doesn't guarantee learning, better not to join it :) .
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I read this earlier myself and said to myself, "WTF?" What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job? Let's face it, she hasn't found her perfect dream job. It says nothing if she has looked for something similar or even a lower wage paying job for the meantime.
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leckey wrote:
What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job?
That is exactly what I was thinking. The judge should just throw this case out.:mad:
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Apart from the obvious stupidity of claiming that a university is responsible for employment:
BBC news wrote:
she obtained a bachelor's degree
It doesn't say anything about a masters degree, and trying to hit the market without either a masters degree or a Lot of experience is just a foolish waste of time. Maybe she has it anyway, it doesn't say, but it certainly sounds like she doesn't have one. No company I know of would take the risk of hiring a regular fresh ex-student who didn't even bother to get a masters degree.
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Apart from the obvious stupidity of claiming that a university is responsible for employment:
BBC news wrote:
she obtained a bachelor's degree
It doesn't say anything about a masters degree, and trying to hit the market without either a masters degree or a Lot of experience is just a foolish waste of time. Maybe she has it anyway, it doesn't say, but it certainly sounds like she doesn't have one. No company I know of would take the risk of hiring a regular fresh ex-student who didn't even bother to get a masters degree.
harold aptroot wrote:
and trying to hit the market without either a masters degree or a Lot of experience is just a foolish waste of time.
FTFY
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harold aptroot wrote:
and trying to hit the market without either a masters degree or a Lot of experience is just a foolish waste of time.
FTFY
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Yea ok. But that's a dead end in the paths of Life - you can't get experience because you don't already have it. If that were really the case then surely there would be reports of groups of fresh ex-students committing mass suicide. I have heard no such reports, so there's gotta be some sort of sideways workaround that somehow escapes the dead end.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
She doesn't have a super-common name, so if/when she gets an interview in the future, guess what will happen when the hiring manager googles her name.
--Mike-- Dunder-Mifflin, this is Pam.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
My first reaction was similar to many here, but then I read one story that pointed out that Monroe College had bragged about their placement rates and how much they did to get you a job and all that. The legal question is whether Monroe College made a contract or whether their claims constituted a contract. If they did (and I think they did), are they really liable for the graduate's tuition (that's where I'm skeptical.) This does raise a question, though, about what liability universities have for making claims and promises about job placement or even job possibilities that simply aren't true. Yes, everyone should know that colleges and universities have long way oversold the value of their services, but should they get away with their lies forever?
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Apart from the obvious stupidity of claiming that a university is responsible for employment:
BBC news wrote:
she obtained a bachelor's degree
It doesn't say anything about a masters degree, and trying to hit the market without either a masters degree or a Lot of experience is just a foolish waste of time. Maybe she has it anyway, it doesn't say, but it certainly sounds like she doesn't have one. No company I know of would take the risk of hiring a regular fresh ex-student who didn't even bother to get a masters degree.
I'm not sure what planet you live on, but outside of Google, Master's degrees do nothing to help job prospects outside of very narrow fields (and the scoop is that even Google is regretting that stance.)
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Pravarakhya wrote:
colleges guarantee learning
Does it?
No. A college should guarantee an opportunity for learning. The actual learning is sort of up to the student. ;)
BDF People don't mind being mean; but they never want to be ridiculous. -- Moliere