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  • S Stuart Dootson

    bertvan wrote:

    How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

    Working out how to speed up the build... Cursing the numpty who didn't distribute their code in files so as to minimise build times... Then I get bored, start surfing t'Internet and come back later to find I've wasted 20 minutes after the build had finished...

    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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    John M Drescher
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    Stuart Dootson wrote:

    Working out how to speed up the build...

    I did this by replacing my main harddrive with a 300 GB velociraptor. This drive saves me 5 to 15 minutes every time I compile the application I am working on.

    John

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      FTFY Police.[^]

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      Jacquers
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      Thanks! (For some reason the hamsters didn't do their usual magic when I pasted the link)

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      • B bertvan

        I'm working on a project with a long build duration. How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

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        Nish Nishant
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        You could switch over to a VM or remote desktop to another machine and work on a test project. You could run another instance on the machine doing the build, but that may slow the build down.

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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        • J John M Drescher

          Stuart Dootson wrote:

          Working out how to speed up the build...

          I did this by replacing my main harddrive with a 300 GB velociraptor. This drive saves me 5 to 15 minutes every time I compile the application I am working on.

          John

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          Stuart Dootson
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          John M. Drescher wrote:

          5 to 15 minutes

          New hardware's rarely been an option @ work for me - instead, it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes.

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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          • S Stuart Dootson

            John M. Drescher wrote:

            5 to 15 minutes

            New hardware's rarely been an option @ work for me - instead, it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes.

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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            John M Drescher
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            Stuart Dootson wrote:

            New hardware's rarely been an option @ work for me

            I am lucky, since part of my job role is to recommend new hardware purchases. If they are under $1000 I am usually approved without any problems..

            Stuart Dootson wrote:

            instead, it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes.

            On the latest project I actually did both methods. One such time saver was reducing the number of #include statements in headers. In this I made a lot of use of the PIMPL idiom. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1794.asp[^]

            John

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            • J John M Drescher

              Mostly in the following order: check my mail, perform network administration tasks, browse 5 to 10 forums I participate in daily, go grab a coffee and / or go talk to a coworker.

              John

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              I'd rather grab a co-workwer and talk to a coffee.

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              • N Nish Nishant

                You could switch over to a VM or remote desktop to another machine and work on a test project. You could run another instance on the machine doing the build, but that may slow the build down.

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                You're such a kill joy Nish! The guy is obviously looking for a time waster[^] to play while the build is going on, only he's discrete enough to ask it in a subtle manner!

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  I'd rather grab a co-workwer and talk to a coffee.

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  :laugh:

                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    You're such a kill joy Nish! The guy is obviously looking for a time waster[^] to play while the build is going on, only he's discrete enough to ask it in a subtle manner!

                    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    The guy is obviously looking for a time waster[^] to play while the build is going on, only he's discrete enough to ask it in a subtle manner!

                    :-D Yeah, my bad!

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                    • J Jacquers

                      Thanks! (For some reason the hamsters didn't do their usual magic when I pasted the link)

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                      Yusuf
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                      Jacquers wrote:

                      Thanks! (For some reason the hamsters didn't do their usual magic when I pasted the link)

                      yeah! blame it on the hamsters, poor thingie :doh:

                      Yusuf May I help you?

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                      • B bertvan

                        I'm working on a project with a long build duration. How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

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                        Maximilien
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                        sleep.

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          Stuart Dootson wrote:

                          New hardware's rarely been an option @ work for me

                          I am lucky, since part of my job role is to recommend new hardware purchases. If they are under $1000 I am usually approved without any problems..

                          Stuart Dootson wrote:

                          instead, it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes.

                          On the latest project I actually did both methods. One such time saver was reducing the number of #include statements in headers. In this I made a lot of use of the PIMPL idiom. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1794.asp[^]

                          John

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          John M. Drescher wrote:

                          In this I made a lot of use of the PIMPL idiom

                          Yep, that one's saved me a LOT of (build-)time over the years!

                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                          • B bertvan

                            I'm working on a project with a long build duration. How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            Work on one of my other number-one top priorities :rolleyes:. We have a dedicated build machine, so there's no excuse for not working on something else.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • S Stuart Dootson

                              John M. Drescher wrote:

                              5 to 15 minutes

                              New hardware's rarely been an option @ work for me - instead, it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes.

                              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                              Gary Wheeler
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                              Stuart Dootson wrote:

                              it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes

                              That's a horrendous use of your time, IMO.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              • B bertvan

                                I'm working on a project with a long build duration. How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                I usually get onto the C++ forum of CP.

                                It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  Stuart Dootson wrote:

                                  it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes

                                  That's a horrendous use of your time, IMO.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  It's not needed too often in my code, 'cause most of the time I've thought about it before I started. Other people's code, however... And anyway, if I spend the time waiting for builds doing this, then I've kind of not really wasted any time at all.

                                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                  • S Stuart Dootson

                                    It's not needed too often in my code, 'cause most of the time I've thought about it before I started. Other people's code, however... And anyway, if I spend the time waiting for builds doing this, then I've kind of not really wasted any time at all.

                                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    There have been times in the past where I spent a lot of time 'rearranging' code due to factors like compiler limitations and other considerations. The payoff never seemed to match the effort expended.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      I'd rather grab a co-workwer and talk to a coffee.

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                                      Henry Minute
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                                      One place I contracted at, one of the draughtsmen told me that

                                      "Friday afternoons are all meat pies and grope."

                                      I never did find out what he meant but it sounds like your sort of place. :)

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        Stuart Dootson wrote:

                                        it's a case of rearranging code and/or distribution of code between files to minimise the impact of changes

                                        That's a horrendous use of your time, IMO.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        John M Drescher
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                                        For me the reasons for optimizing the hardware, the OS and build process was a result of the following issue: When you change a single line of code in a header file and it takes 30 minutes to produce an new executable its clear that I was not making efficient usage of my time.. Now entire builds happen in less than 10 minutes.

                                        John

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                                        • B bertvan

                                          I'm working on a project with a long build duration. How do you normally kill time when you return with your coffee and the build is still busy?

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                                          bob16972
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                                          I had that problem once with an MFC project that had a mere 110,000 lines of code and then bought a new PC with 4GB of RAM and the slow builds went away. Albeit, not the best solution but it worked. :)

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