I despise Vista
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Me too. I shelled out for Vista Ultimate OEM as soon as it came out. I wanted to dual boot my machine with Linux as I found the usability terrible( security prompts all the time). Whe I got Linux up and playing nicely, I was forced to re-register Vista. Vista had picked up that the system configuration was no longer the same (the Vista HDD was swapped to IDE1 instead of IDE0), I hadn't even re-installed it or put it onto another hard drive.:mad: When I tried to do this online, I was helpfully informed that Vista is already registered on a machine (which it was - my machine). I then had to phone the call-centre and spent the next 10 mins explaining that I wasn't installing Vista on a new machine, I'd just swapped the drive order. It was sucessfully re-registered, but I eventually gave up and went back to XP. Normally, I hate Microsoft bashing, but I'm really glad they've taken such a beating over this one. The beta of Weven looks better (lets face it, it is what Vista would have been if Microsoft hadn't gone to market far too early). I'm appalled they removed your mvp status for that BTW.
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
... Why Vista sucks today?!? :rolleyes:
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected? As for your problem, have you tried running VS as an administrator? I use the Express editions, and I've found that a lot of issues got resolved when I did that. Not having installed a service pack wouldn't particularly help either.
Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow
Computafreak wrote:
have you tried running VS as an administrator
How can I self flagelate if I run as an administrator, I'd have little to bitch and blog about. That would remove all the fun out of running/fighting Vista
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
1.) Is this a new announcement? 2.) Given your *constant* problems with *every* tool you use, maybe the time has come to evaluate the user as well the tool...wait, maybe I repeat myself. 3.) The above was written in jest. 4.) The above was not written jest. ;P
"My interest is in the future because I'm going to spend the rest of my life there." - Charles F. Kettering
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Computafreak wrote:
have you tried running VS as an administrator
How can I self flagelate if I run as an administrator, I'd have little to bitch and blog about. That would remove all the fun out of running/fighting Vista
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected? As for your problem, have you tried running VS as an administrator? I use the Express editions, and I've found that a lot of issues got resolved when I did that. Not having installed a service pack wouldn't particularly help either.
Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow
Computafreak wrote:
Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected?
Maybe he has turned into a variant or sorcerers' stone, in which everything he touches converts into non-performing, crashing, sucking piece of c**p
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I couldn't stand Vista. My biggest issue was ownership problems with folders that I created from different computers or with this computer before I installed Vista. I couldn't rename or remove files. I had to open the folder properties and take ownership even though I was already the owner (domainname/username was identical). I turned off the UAC and still couldn't stand it. Windows 7, however, love it. I think Vista was really just a public beta for W7 so MS could test the lower level things on a wider audience. Most beta testers know what they're doing with computers. The general populace... well, I'll stop there. It gave them a chance to fix the foundation so they could "improve" the rest of the OS. Just my two cents (I doubt it's even worth that). FWIW, I think it's really stupid (couldn't think of better "kid-sister friendly" words) that MS kicked you out of the MVP program for criticizing an OS that many in MS even admitted had problems. Why else did they extend XP's life so many times?
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
BRShroyer wrote:
Why else did they extend XP's life so many times?
Supply and demand!
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
That would remove all the fun out of running/fighting Vista
And eliminate a main reason for running Vista versus XP (run in a secure fashion as a standard user).
Wait. Running VS as administrator disables the security of the rest of the OS? I do all my development in Vista and run VS as admin only for projects that I have post-build commands to register a dll or activeX control. All other projects work fine and I never have problems. It sounds to me like Christian's problems are more related to his project is being loaded from a protected location.
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Me too. I shelled out for Vista Ultimate OEM as soon as it came out. I wanted to dual boot my machine with Linux as I found the usability terrible( security prompts all the time). Whe I got Linux up and playing nicely, I was forced to re-register Vista. Vista had picked up that the system configuration was no longer the same (the Vista HDD was swapped to IDE1 instead of IDE0), I hadn't even re-installed it or put it onto another hard drive.:mad: When I tried to do this online, I was helpfully informed that Vista is already registered on a machine (which it was - my machine). I then had to phone the call-centre and spent the next 10 mins explaining that I wasn't installing Vista on a new machine, I'd just swapped the drive order. It was sucessfully re-registered, but I eventually gave up and went back to XP. Normally, I hate Microsoft bashing, but I'm really glad they've taken such a beating over this one. The beta of Weven looks better (lets face it, it is what Vista would have been if Microsoft hadn't gone to market far too early). I'm appalled they removed your mvp status for that BTW.
keefb wrote:
I'm appalled they removed your mvp status for that BTW.
Why? MVP is first and foremost an acknowledgment of being a Vocal MS Fanboi. Christian no longer is, so his didn't get renewed.
The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.
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Computafreak wrote:
Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected?
Maybe he has turned into a variant or sorcerers' stone, in which everything he touches converts into non-performing, crashing, sucking piece of c**p
That reminds me today's CP Insider's News Head Line.
Asus, Apple provide most reliable PCs, survey says. Least reliable? Whichever brand Christian chooses.
http://www.codeproject.com/script/News/Summary.aspx?nwdt=20+Aug+2009[^]
Books are as useful to a stupid person as a mirror is useful to a blind person. - Chanakya
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
sounds like the problems was with VS.
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Wait. Running VS as administrator disables the security of the rest of the OS? I do all my development in Vista and run VS as admin only for projects that I have post-build commands to register a dll or activeX control. All other projects work fine and I never have problems. It sounds to me like Christian's problems are more related to his project is being loaded from a protected location.
kinar wrote:
Wait. Running VS as administrator disables the security of the rest of the OS?
In a way, yes. It provides another avenue for malicious code to execute.
kinar wrote:
It sounds to me like Christian's problems are more related to his project is being loaded from a protected location.
Could be, I just think running as Admin is a less than ideal work around. Better to solve the "root" problem. Pardon the pun.
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1.) Is this a new announcement? 2.) Given your *constant* problems with *every* tool you use, maybe the time has come to evaluate the user as well the tool...wait, maybe I repeat myself. 3.) The above was written in jest. 4.) The above was not written jest. ;P
"My interest is in the future because I'm going to spend the rest of my life there." - Charles F. Kettering
:)
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
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sounds like the problems was with VS.
Sounds like problems with everything he touches. :)
Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software
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That reminds me today's CP Insider's News Head Line.
Asus, Apple provide most reliable PCs, survey says. Least reliable? Whichever brand Christian chooses.
http://www.codeproject.com/script/News/Summary.aspx?nwdt=20+Aug+2009[^]
Books are as useful to a stupid person as a mirror is useful to a blind person. - Chanakya
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So, I had to make some changes in Vista tonight ( to a website in VS2008 ). Constant issues like, VS asks if I want to overwrite a file, then tells me it cannot make it not read only. Even when I made that change, it every time told me it could not overwrite the file. To make a change, I had to rename the old file, then save it again. Renaming files had the old ask twice to confirm thing. It's a nightmare. I know there's a service pack that I don't have, but how could they release an OS that was this unusable ? And then kick me out of the MVP program for saying so ? I will need to test with Windows 7 soon. I am expecting that to be a dog, too. I mean, why would it not be ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
It's because you don't have ownership of the files. The easiest way to take ownership is to turn UAC completely off. You can also take the longer winded (and more correct) route of actually taking ownership and setting permissions for the files.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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That reminds me today's CP Insider's News Head Line.
Asus, Apple provide most reliable PCs, survey says. Least reliable? Whichever brand Christian chooses.
http://www.codeproject.com/script/News/Summary.aspx?nwdt=20+Aug+2009[^]
Books are as useful to a stupid person as a mirror is useful to a blind person. - Chanakya
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Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected? As for your problem, have you tried running VS as an administrator? I use the Express editions, and I've found that a lot of issues got resolved when I did that. Not having installed a service pack wouldn't particularly help either.
Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow
Computafreak wrote:
Is there anything that you touch which doesn't break or suck, and performs as expected?
Can't be him alone, same here.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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kinar wrote:
Wait. Running VS as administrator disables the security of the rest of the OS?
In a way, yes. It provides another avenue for malicious code to execute.
kinar wrote:
It sounds to me like Christian's problems are more related to his project is being loaded from a protected location.
Could be, I just think running as Admin is a less than ideal work around. Better to solve the "root" problem. Pardon the pun.
