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  • S Single Step Debugger

    C’mon Sherlock spit it out! :)

    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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    Caslen
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    Well I wouldn't want to spoil the fun for Iain trying to work it out :)

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      Hur långt har du kommit i svenskalektionerna? ;) Välkommen!

      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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      Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

      Hur långt har du kommit i svenskalektionerna?

      Hehe, 0 time in formal lessons, though my fästmö has been teaching me small bits. I only get tea if I reply to her offer in Svenska I can count (I haven't quite got the hang of saying sju - I still say "shoe"), and do the funky letters (å gives me trouble still). The harder part is to not do weird things with your words - it's all very literal in its spelling. ie, There's a place near here called Garphyttan, which should be Garp-hyt-tan, and I've been saying it like Garfitan. I start a formal course next week!

      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

      Välkommen!

      Tack så mycket! ICWP(NR).

      I have now moved to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), or need cotract work done, give me a job! http://cv.imcsoft.co.uk/[^]

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        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

        Hur långt har du kommit i svenskalektionerna?

        Hehe, 0 time in formal lessons, though my fästmö has been teaching me small bits. I only get tea if I reply to her offer in Svenska I can count (I haven't quite got the hang of saying sju - I still say "shoe"), and do the funky letters (å gives me trouble still). The harder part is to not do weird things with your words - it's all very literal in its spelling. ie, There's a place near here called Garphyttan, which should be Garp-hyt-tan, and I've been saying it like Garfitan. I start a formal course next week!

        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

        Välkommen!

        Tack så mycket! ICWP(NR).

        I have now moved to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), or need cotract work done, give me a job! http://cv.imcsoft.co.uk/[^]

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        Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote:

        and I've been saying it like Garfitan.

        :laugh: I bet that has raised a couple of eyebrows :-D You live in what's called "Gnällbältet". The dialect spoken in that area (stretches from just west of Örebro to Eskilstuna), has a high pitch in the beginning of the sentence, and then lowers continually until the end of the sentence. In Swedish, it sounds as if they are lamenting when they speak. (Gnäll = lament)

        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote:

          and I've been saying it like Garfitan.

          :laugh: I bet that has raised a couple of eyebrows :-D You live in what's called "Gnällbältet". The dialect spoken in that area (stretches from just west of Örebro to Eskilstuna), has a high pitch in the beginning of the sentence, and then lowers continually until the end of the sentence. In Swedish, it sounds as if they are lamenting when they speak. (Gnäll = lament)

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          Hmm, I imagine it would have raised a few eyebrows. It has just been explained to me why... (For the sake of non-swedish, kid sisters, take away the 'gar' and you have a very rude word for Ladie's Plumbing) Luckily I've only said it to one person, who kept a straight face. It sounds like I should resist picking up a local accent! Which region should I go for? Varmland gets pick on as "yokel", I gather. I've been up in Norrland/Lappland. Maybe I could speak slowly, quietly, and put in the odd "shoop" noise as punctuation? Iain.

          I have now moved to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), or need cotract work done, give me a job! http://cv.imcsoft.co.uk/[^]

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            Hmm, I imagine it would have raised a few eyebrows. It has just been explained to me why... (For the sake of non-swedish, kid sisters, take away the 'gar' and you have a very rude word for Ladie's Plumbing) Luckily I've only said it to one person, who kept a straight face. It sounds like I should resist picking up a local accent! Which region should I go for? Varmland gets pick on as "yokel", I gather. I've been up in Norrland/Lappland. Maybe I could speak slowly, quietly, and put in the odd "shoop" noise as punctuation? Iain.

            I have now moved to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), or need cotract work done, give me a job! http://cv.imcsoft.co.uk/[^]

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            First lesson:- Swedish Stranglers[^] Translation on my desk by the end of the day Mr Clarke!

            Apathy Rules - I suppose...

            Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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            • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

              Hmm, I imagine it would have raised a few eyebrows. It has just been explained to me why... (For the sake of non-swedish, kid sisters, take away the 'gar' and you have a very rude word for Ladie's Plumbing) Luckily I've only said it to one person, who kept a straight face. It sounds like I should resist picking up a local accent! Which region should I go for? Varmland gets pick on as "yokel", I gather. I've been up in Norrland/Lappland. Maybe I could speak slowly, quietly, and put in the odd "shoop" noise as punctuation? Iain.

              I have now moved to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), or need cotract work done, give me a job! http://cv.imcsoft.co.uk/[^]

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              It's hard to pinpoint a single dialect in Värmland. In the east, it borders to Gnällbältet, and has influences from Östergötland*. In the west it's very influenced by Norwegian (some might say it's not Swedish anymore), and in the north it starts to get northern influences (shoops ;)). If you want a challenge, pick up a dialect from the Hagfors area. They have their own way of pronouncing vowels. It's almost as if they have diphthongs, but not quite. A diphthong usually morphs from one vowel to another. In Hagfors vowel sounds morph from one vowel to the very same vowel. :~ And of course, there's no apparent system for when you should use these special vowels. It's hard to master. If you speak with a northern accent, you will be seen as a calm person. It might however make you look stupid in some people's eyes. Think of northern accent as the Swedish version of US red neck accents. Of course, this depends entirely on the prejudice of the listener. * Östgötska (pronounced Ösjöttska) is probably the ugliest dialect in Swedish. Don't pick that up. It took me years to get rid of the dialect, despite the fact that I grew up and lived in the northern parts of Östergötland where the ugliness of the dialect isn't so dominant.

              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                First lesson:- Swedish Stranglers[^] Translation on my desk by the end of the day Mr Clarke!

                Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Double you tee eff. :-D

                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                  Double you tee eff. :-D

                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                  Nice eh? I often wondered if it really was swedish (sung with a cockney accent though)

                  Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                  Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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                    Nice eh? I often wondered if it really was swedish (sung with a cockney accent though)

                    Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                    Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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                    It's Swedish alright, but it's hard to understand most of the time. I would imagine it's hard to sing in a language they normally don't speak. The Stranglers is a punk band...?

                    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      It's Swedish alright, but it's hard to understand most of the time. I would imagine it's hard to sing in a language they normally don't speak. The Stranglers is a punk band...?

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                      yeah from the late 70s-80s They're still going but with a different line up but bands are never the same when the lead singer leaves though

                      Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                      Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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