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  • J Jim SS

    I think he was trying to see whether the test and descriptions were valid. Probably more playing than anything else.

    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Jim (SS) wrote:

    Probably more playing than anything else

    That's what he wants you to think. (half joke)

    Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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    • J Jim SS

      Thats what I would like to find out. Is there a correlation between personality and job? That could prove or disprove validity.

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      Wjousts
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      Jim (SS) wrote:

      Thats what I would like to find out. Is there a correlation between personality and job?

      Then you need to start with a personality measure that has some kind of scientific validity and isn't just made up.

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        A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

        SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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        Jim (SS) wrote:

        manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

        Is that actually legal? To ask an employee to take a personality test?

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

          SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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          Shog9 0
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          ISTP, used to be INTJ, INTP if i take the test with people around. It's all a matter of when i decide to give up and just lie.

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          • J Jim SS

            A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

            SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Hate Ignorant Psychological Bullshits! :-D

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Jim (SS) wrote:

              manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

              Is that actually legal? To ask an employee to take a personality test?

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Here's a fun read: Test for Dwindling Retail Jobs Spawns a Culture of Cheating (WSJ)[^]

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              • J Jim SS

                Thats what I would like to find out. Is there a correlation between personality and job? That could prove or disprove validity.

                SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                Jim (SS) wrote:

                Is there a correlation between personality and job?

                IMO, yes! It's a safe bet at least one-third the people here would be INTPs and INTJs. Mind you, these types are very few in the general population. And if you go by the "the exception proves the rule" saying, consider me - I am an ENTJ and I do NOT want to remain a developer! I am looking to be a Business Analyst. [EDIT]Just to make it clear - I am NOT saying people should be hired/discriminated based only on the MBTI results.[/EDIT]

                Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)

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                • L Lost User

                  I've seen these kinds of thing before - it shows the personality you project while taking the test :doh:

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                  Jim SS
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                  Yeah, my daughter says that she is an I (introverted) when she takes the test the first time, but if she takes it a few minutes later, she is an E (extroverted). :wtf:

                  SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Jim (SS) wrote:

                    manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

                    Is that actually legal? To ask an employee to take a personality test?

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Jim SS
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                    Maybe not. And it may not be useful for hiring. But if your personality is unsuited to long periods of solitude, searching for something that will make your program work, you may decide ahead of time that software development may not be what you want to do when you grow up. Could you use this a poll to see if there is a preponderance of one or two types in the CP population?

                    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Jim (SS) wrote:

                      manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

                      Is that actually legal? To ask an employee to take a personality test?

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      MidwestLimey
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                      That was my first thought too, what would they do with refusals?

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                      • J Jim SS

                        A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                        SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

                        modified on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:16 PM

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                        • J Jim SS

                          A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                          SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                          MidwestLimey
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                          For good or ill

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                          • J Jim SS

                            A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                            SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                            goodideadave
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                            I worked in an office in the 80s where everyone had to take the test and then post their letters next to their desk. I snuck in early one morning and changed this one manager's letters from ENTJ to MORON (I thought it a better fit). Meyers-Briggs has recently reared it's ugly head at my current employer. I see they have catchy names now like Fieldmarshal. When they add Pinhead and Troll, I'll gladly take the test again, and post the results.

                            My other signature is witty and insightful.

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                              A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                              SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                              Roger Wright
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                              I'm not terribly picky, and perfectly comfortable with int i, int j, or int k when initializing a loop.

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                I'm not terribly picky, and perfectly comfortable with int i, int j, or int k when initializing a loop.

                                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                Jim SS
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                                I bet you know why you use i, j or k for loops. :) That really dates us. :-D

                                SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                                • J Jim SS

                                  A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                                  SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  I'm an INTJ.

                                  If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                  • J Jim SS

                                    A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                                    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Add me on then, ISTJ Work paid quite a bit to have the lot of us tested, everyone in the department was about the breakdown you see here(except for the desighners). At least these things are fairly accurate.

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                                    • W Wjousts

                                      I'm a Libra. It has about as much value as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator.

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                                      Wjousts wrote:

                                      It has about as much value as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator.

                                      Not really. MBTI is based from scientific psychology studies.

                                      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - Joesox.com

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                                      • J Jim SS

                                        I bet you know why you use i, j or k for loops. :) That really dates us. :-D

                                        SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Hehehe... Yeah, I guess it does. For me, it's a habit dating from coding FORTRAN II on Hollerith cards. :-O

                                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                        • J Jim SS

                                          A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test. There was talk around the office that many developers are INTJ, because that personality suits the way developers work. I wonder what the distribution is among the CPers. I am a very strong INTJ. My wife calls me a hermit, my son says it fits perfectly, and my daughter (who has strong opinions about many things) is also an INTJ. After 7 hours, 42% INTJ INTJ 5 ISTP 2 ENTJ 2 ISTJ 2 ENTP 1

                                          SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

                                          modified on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:16 PM

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                                          Jim (SS) wrote:

                                          A manager in the office recently requested that his employees take the Myers-Briggs personality test

                                          These things should not be used for any managerial purpose, unless it is to change processes to suit employees better. I've written three such tests myself -- for learning preferences, working practices, and a general one. They are the simplest things in the world to develop: 1. Ask a question, with either a boolean or multiple choice answer (if you're good at thinking up such questions, you can have a "don't know" option): Question: Do you eat bananas more than other fruit? Answers: Yes, No, Sometimes. 2. Work out the "score": "Yes" = 2 "No" = 0 "Sometimes" = 1 3. Use the "score" to tell the person what they told you when they answered the question: e.g. if the answer was "Sometimes", respond: "You usually enjoy bananas, but you also eat and enjoy other fruits, and occasionally do not want to eat bananas at all." If you plot out your questions and responses cleverly enough, you can, by retelling people exactly what they have told you, get "miraculous" results, and everyone will think you're very clever for having "scientifically worked out" what they are like and what they like -- but all you do is tell them what they told you (I'm hoping that concept will sink in if I repeat it enough).

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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