Must have 10+ years of experience in .NET 4.0, Visual Studio 10
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I think I've deduced the logic they use to figure out these requirements... Hold on... It's coming to me... 1) Pick a random programmer in the company. Ask him what the next "cool" technology is. 2) Repeat with a few other programmers. Make a list. 3) Roll a d10 (10-sided die, for you non-gamers) to determine the years of experience 4) Subtract a d6 (6-sided die roll) if it's entry-level, or add a d6 if it's a senior position 5) Send to the recruitment agency And then the recruitment agency has their own process... 1) Completely ignore the supplied numbers, and flip a coin for "5" or "10" years experience, because obviously the company has no idea what they really want 2) From a hat filled with common acronyms and codes, pick 10-15 items and tack them on... Examples: VBA, ASP.NET, Joomla, COBOL, ISO9660, RFC1459, 802.11b 3) Make sure to add in "Strong communication skills", just to make sure the candidate knows he or she will have to interact with other members of the human race 4) Post! (Five points to anyone who knows which RFC that is without looking it up - Ah, memories)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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While searching for a job on Dice, I found this requirement. I am strong believer in presenting the truth and not cooking up the resume [we all are] - but when you see something like this, you just have to take a break and laugh for a while...10+ years of experience in .NET 4.0 + VS 2010 - a product that is still in Beta...and then they complain about candidates cooking up their resume... Here is the original job posting
They probably just mean 10+ years of .NET, but even that's ridiculous.
Kevin
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While searching for a job on Dice, I found this requirement. I am strong believer in presenting the truth and not cooking up the resume [we all are] - but when you see something like this, you just have to take a break and laugh for a while...10+ years of experience in .NET 4.0 + VS 2010 - a product that is still in Beta...and then they complain about candidates cooking up their resume... Here is the original job posting
Yeah, I've seen that sort of thing since Visual Studio.net 2002 first came out; companies looking for candidates with three years of "professional experience" with C#. Fortunately the first spec of C# * was published in 1999 and I had read it then -- I now have ten years experience with C#, even though I've only had a compiler for it for seven. :-D * Co-worker: Isn't that the new Microsoft Java?
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Yeah, I've seen that sort of thing since Visual Studio.net 2002 first came out; companies looking for candidates with three years of "professional experience" with C#. Fortunately the first spec of C# * was published in 1999 and I had read it then -- I now have ten years experience with C#, even though I've only had a compiler for it for seven. :-D * Co-worker: Isn't that the new Microsoft Java?
Sure, but you have had a C# IDE (Notepad) for more than 20 years, haven't you? :)
Luc Pattyn
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Sure, but you have had a C# IDE (Notepad) for more than 20 years, haven't you? :)
Luc Pattyn
Have a look at my entry for the lean-and-mean competition; please provide comments, feedback, discussion, and don’t forget to vote for it! Thank you.
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I generally don't use Notepad for program code (I do for XML and HTML). I prefer Edit; it handles TABs somewhat better.
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I generally don't use Notepad for program code (I do for XML and HTML). I prefer Edit; it handles TABs somewhat better.
Hey, who are you trying to fool? You don't even use TABs, see here[^] for instance. :doh:
Luc Pattyn
Have a look at my entry for the lean-and-mean competition; please provide comments, feedback, discussion, and don’t forget to vote for it! Thank you.
Local announcement (Antwerp region): Lange Wapper? Neen!
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Hey, who are you trying to fool? You don't even use TABs, see here[^] for instance. :doh:
Luc Pattyn
Have a look at my entry for the lean-and-mean competition; please provide comments, feedback, discussion, and don’t forget to vote for it! Thank you.
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Exactly -- I press the TAB key and Edit inserts (eight) SPACEs; Notepad inserts a dirty stinkin' TAB. X|
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Exactly -- I press the TAB key and Edit inserts (eight) SPACEs; Notepad inserts a dirty stinkin' TAB. X|
So you are cheating? when you want 8 spaces, you should enter 8 spaces. What's next? you using using directives, and having some tool to refactor them out? :laugh:
Luc Pattyn
Have a look at my entry for the lean-and-mean competition; please provide comments, feedback, discussion, and don’t forget to vote for it! Thank you.
Local announcement (Antwerp region): Lange Wapper? Neen!
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So you are cheating? when you want 8 spaces, you should enter 8 spaces. What's next? you using using directives, and having some tool to refactor them out? :laugh:
Luc Pattyn
Have a look at my entry for the lean-and-mean competition; please provide comments, feedback, discussion, and don’t forget to vote for it! Thank you.
Local announcement (Antwerp region): Lange Wapper? Neen!
Luc Pattyn wrote:
having some tool to refactor them out
Only if I have to maintain code written by others.
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I think I've deduced the logic they use to figure out these requirements... Hold on... It's coming to me... 1) Pick a random programmer in the company. Ask him what the next "cool" technology is. 2) Repeat with a few other programmers. Make a list. 3) Roll a d10 (10-sided die, for you non-gamers) to determine the years of experience 4) Subtract a d6 (6-sided die roll) if it's entry-level, or add a d6 if it's a senior position 5) Send to the recruitment agency And then the recruitment agency has their own process... 1) Completely ignore the supplied numbers, and flip a coin for "5" or "10" years experience, because obviously the company has no idea what they really want 2) From a hat filled with common acronyms and codes, pick 10-15 items and tack them on... Examples: VBA, ASP.NET, Joomla, COBOL, ISO9660, RFC1459, 802.11b 3) Make sure to add in "Strong communication skills", just to make sure the candidate knows he or she will have to interact with other members of the human race 4) Post! (Five points to anyone who knows which RFC that is without looking it up - Ah, memories)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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Well, yeah, but I've actually programmed clients for 1459... I never tried to brainwash a carrier pigeon :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)