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    Muammar
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    Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


    We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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      Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


      We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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      Chris Losinger
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      neither.

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      • M Muammar

        Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


        We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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        Pravarakhya
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        MCSD seems to be popular.

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        • M Muammar

          Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


          We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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          Christian Graus
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          It would depend on which one was soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent. I'd have to be pretty hard pressed for a job to work for anyone who thought those things are worth anything at all.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            It would depend on which one was soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent. I'd have to be pretty hard pressed for a job to work for anyone who thought those things are worth anything at all.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Dave Parker
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            A lot of places value them simply for the partner points in my experience.

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              A lot of places value them simply for the partner points in my experience.

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              Dave Parker wrote:

              partner points

              In which case it does not matter unless they represent different point values. I don't know a single developer who flaunts these enough that I know they have them. If they were on their resumes I didn't even notice.

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              • M Muammar

                Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


                We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                majee
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                The CSS work on your signature area is awesome. It’s like a caricature :-D

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                • M Muammar

                  Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


                  We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                  emadns
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                  I have over 6 years of experience in ASP.net and VB.net and I failed the test with missing 1 point. On the other hand, I know a friend who has only one year experience but studied TestKing questions and he passed the exam. These certifications are useless. You can get many of them if you solve enough TestKing questions before going to the exam.

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                  • M Muammar

                    Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


                    We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                    Besir Kasami
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                    You must get MCTS first then you can get MCPD. MCSD is old, from the time of .Net 1.1. If you achieve to get them both, that means that you are have a very good knowledge of .Net. And that is very usefull for your future Job. I have no University Degree, but with my Highschool and a MCTS Certificate I managed to get a job in Switzerland. So I can suggest you give it a try. I know many companies that work with .Net, and they don't care at all in which Univers. you have studied. Only if you own a certificate, you can convince them you are a good .Net Developer. Anyway, having a MS Certificate is allways good and positive.

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                      I have over 6 years of experience in ASP.net and VB.net and I failed the test with missing 1 point. On the other hand, I know a friend who has only one year experience but studied TestKing questions and he passed the exam. These certifications are useless. You can get many of them if you solve enough TestKing questions before going to the exam.

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                      Besir Kasami
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                      You are right, but who is the good developer between you. I also failed twice on the Desktop Support exams, but I had success with Programming. I think the time given for the exams is very short and limited, espacially for the Development Exams. About Testkings, I don't think they are a good thing. But it does not means that a Certificate is useless. If you get it with knowledge, it can be very usefull-

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                      • M Muammar

                        Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


                        We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                        peterchen
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                        Well, one demonstrates your expertise in developing leading-edge enterprise solutions by using the Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0 and 1.1, and the other is a Microsoft Certified Police Department. I'd go with the police department.

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                          A lot of places value them simply for the partner points in my experience.

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                          RichardGrimmer
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                          That's precisly why I'm having to do it...

                          C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                          • M Muammar

                            Hi, If you have/planning to have one of those certificates which one will it be and why and what is the difference?? I know you'd say, go to Microsoft's website to find the answer but I want your own experience and maybe some useful book names you went through for the exams. Thank you!


                            We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                            RichardGrimmer
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                            I'm currently studying for MCSD as a part of our Gold Partner requirements. While initially I thought that it would be a waste of time, reading trough the cours materials is actually a fairly useful exercise. There were several areas where I "knew what I was doing", but in which turned out to be "sloppy"

                            C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                              You are right, but who is the good developer between you. I also failed twice on the Desktop Support exams, but I had success with Programming. I think the time given for the exams is very short and limited, espacially for the Development Exams. About Testkings, I don't think they are a good thing. But it does not means that a Certificate is useless. If you get it with knowledge, it can be very usefull-

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                              emadns
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                              TestKing and other testing services is enough to pass these exams with little working experience. I interviewed once a developer who has several of these certificate and he did not know what he was talking about

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                              • M majee

                                The CSS work on your signature area is awesome. It’s like a caricature :-D

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                                No, it's a self portait :-D

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                                  I'm currently studying for MCSD as a part of our Gold Partner requirements. While initially I thought that it would be a waste of time, reading trough the cours materials is actually a fairly useful exercise. There were several areas where I "knew what I was doing", but in which turned out to be "sloppy"

                                  C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                  mintxelas
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                                  I must say that earning the certificate has nothing to do with knowledge. Testking type of prep is the easiest and safest way to pass, but, once you have the title, you are suposed to perform at a level that certainly isn't at the reach of those that passed just with TestKing. So, IMHO, if you need the certification, go the Testking way. THEN, if you want/need to really know what you're doing, go to the library and/or get some experience. I think the training kit books are excellent. Codeproject is better. I've been into .Net development for over 6 years, and most of what I know I owe it to Codeproject. Finally, may I add that the best developers I've worked with have no M$ certification :P

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                                    No, it's a self portait :-D

                                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                    Muammar
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                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    No, it's a self portait Big Grin

                                    At least it's not an evil jumping cat ;P


                                    We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                                      You must get MCTS first then you can get MCPD. MCSD is old, from the time of .Net 1.1. If you achieve to get them both, that means that you are have a very good knowledge of .Net. And that is very usefull for your future Job. I have no University Degree, but with my Highschool and a MCTS Certificate I managed to get a job in Switzerland. So I can suggest you give it a try. I know many companies that work with .Net, and they don't care at all in which Univers. you have studied. Only if you own a certificate, you can convince them you are a good .Net Developer. Anyway, having a MS Certificate is allways good and positive.

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                                      Muammar
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                                      I guess I'm going with MCPD then. Thank you!


                                      We will either find a way, or make one!   (\ /)   (- .-) C(''')(''')

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                                        The CSS work on your signature area is awesome. It’s like a caricature :-D

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                                        Muammar
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                                        I woke him up to say thank you ;)


                                        We will either find a way, or make one!   (\  /)   (O.o) c(><)

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                                          I woke him up to say thank you ;)


                                          We will either find a way, or make one!   (\  /)   (O.o) c(><)

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                                          majee
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                                          Wow you are a magician. :rose:

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