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Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

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  • L leonej_dt

    Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

    If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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    Matthew Barnett
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    If your favourite programming language is C++ then you should see a psychiatrist! :)

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    • B blackjack2150

      A friend of mine had to write the same sentence twince on a piece of paper for an exam, so he wrote it the first time and then he underlined it to select it. He then realised he had no CTRL, C and V keys on the sheet of paper. :)

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      Battlehammer
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      More than once I tried to hit Ctrl - F when looking for something in a book or newspaper. I guess programmers are just programmed!

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      • L leonej_dt

        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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        T800G
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        It's not a problem, a bit more time and you'll use your hippocampus for remote debugging. :laugh:

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        • L leonej_dt

          Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

          If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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          Alan Burkhart
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          Learning a programming language as a creative outlet (I don't do it for a living) actually helped me develop a more logical approach to general problem solving. When faced with something complex, I tend to apply an "If I do this Then Event A happens ElseIf I do that Then Event B happens" approach to finding a solution. Overall, I'd say I've benefited in that regard. It sounds like you just need to remind yourself that not everyone is a programmer or even a competent computer user, and as such their approach to problem solving or even idle conversation will be different from yours (or mine). I encounter this occasionally with my sweet little 88 year-old mom. When she hits me with a blank stare I know I've wandered off into Nerdville.

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          • L leonej_dt

            Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

            If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I'm tempted to use parentheses for clarity in (ordinary communication) instances. One of the things that bugs me is the "Malicious Software Removal Tool"; where do the parentheses go? 0) (Malicious Software) Removal Tool 1) Malicious (Software Removal Tool)

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              My brain has been known to throw exceptions now and then. They're called migraines X|.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              leonej_dt
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              Fortunately, I internally use error codes which the caller functions tend to ignore.

              If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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              • H Henry Minute

                No specific programming language has affected my thought processes in real life. I have always thought about things differently than my family and most of my friends anyway. :) What programming has done to me is that when I have to write, or type something I suddenly find that I am using Pascal or Camel case. The amount of paper I have wasted because of that is probably responsible for at least half of global warming. :-D

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                Alan Burkhart
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                The camel case thing hapPens to me someTimes, too alThough not laTely.

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  Rage wrote:

                  Even never made an analogy such as "Yes, in programming, this would be a base class, these would be derived from it, and you could access the whole through this interface. In your case, the interface would be this and this...." ?

                  OK, slowly step away from the computer, and pull the plug in one quick motion. If-else branching: existed long before computers, doesn't count. Looping: OK, excusable in the real world. Inheritance: You need help. ;P

                  Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                  leonej_dt
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                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                  If-else branching: existed long before computers, doesn't count. Looping: OK, excusable in the real world. Inheritance: You need help.

                  Template metaprogramming? I'm not joking, my girlfriend was talking to me about how hard it is to determine the genre of a movie, and I switched the conversation to talking about how hard categorization is. template <typename _Category, typename _Element> _Category Categorize(const _Element &e) { //... } //... somewhere else Movie m(...); Genre g = Categorize<Genre,Movie>(m);

                  If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                  • L leonej_dt

                    Fortunately, I internally use error codes which the caller functions tend to ignore.

                    If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                    nistrum404
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                    Brilliant, I'll have to try that.

                    Coffee Brain::MakeCoffee() {

                    Fridge fridge = Home.Current.GetFridge();

                    if(!fridge.ContainsMilk) {
                    throw new NoMilkException();
                    }
                    // ... //
                    }

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      I'm tempted to use parentheses for clarity in (ordinary communication) instances. One of the things that bugs me is the "Malicious Software Removal Tool"; where do the parentheses go? 0) (Malicious Software) Removal Tool 1) Malicious (Software Removal Tool)

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                      leonej_dt
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                      I use brackets, as parentheses usually mean their contents are secondary ideas.

                      If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                      • L leonej_dt

                        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                        realJSOP
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                        I've started driving towards Redmond several times with the intention of choking the living sh*t outa whoever is in charge of WPF, so yeah, I guess it has affected my thought process.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Java rots my brain.... :laugh: Sorry. I don't suppose that's what you meant. :)

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                          Owen37
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                          Ohhh, if you want to talk about a language that ROTS the brain: it's gotta be COBOL! X| I've had a couple of jobs that required COBOL programming. Don't EVER want to do that EVER again!

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                          • O Owen37

                            Ohhh, if you want to talk about a language that ROTS the brain: it's gotta be COBOL! X| I've had a couple of jobs that required COBOL programming. Don't EVER want to do that EVER again!

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                            Francine DeGrood Taylor
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                            Huh. Try spending six months doing UI apps in Dataflex, the language that did not do function calls. It's the only langauge I have ever programmed in that I loathed more every single day I used it.

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                            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                              leonej_dt wrote:

                              First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say.

                              Since when did weirdness have to be excused in the Lounge? ;P

                              leonej_dt wrote:

                              Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

                              No.

                              Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)

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                              Francine DeGrood Taylor
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                              Ah, but we're not excusing it, we're celebrating it ;)

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                              • L leonej_dt

                                Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                ecooke
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                                I've sat at stop signs waiting for an event to fire to tell me to go....to bad the event never fired.

                                Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. - Aristotle

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                                • M Miroslav Bucko

                                  Teacher: Write "I will not make paper airplanes in the classroom" 50 times on the board. Student:

                                  for(int counter = 0; counter <=50; counter++ )
                                  {
                                  Console.Writeline("I will not make paper airplanes in the classroom ");
                                  }

                                  :) :)

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                                  User 3318913
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                                  That's 1 too many. ;P

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                                  • L leonej_dt

                                    Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                    If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                    patbob
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                                    Ditto here too. Anyone else look at those communication failures as a problem with their own communication skills to be solved? I do, and apply.. you guessed it.. my abstraction and OO problem solving skills. Over the years, I've gotten fair to middling at communicating that sort of thinking to those non-programmers in my life :)

                                    patbob

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                                      That's 1 too many. ;P

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                                      Miroslav Bucko
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                                      Not total copy :) printf != Console.Writeline. Although they do the same thing.

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                                      • L leonej_dt

                                        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

                                        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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                                        Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                        You need to start using Ruby.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Java rots my brain.... :laugh: Sorry. I don't suppose that's what you meant. :)

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                                          java also rots the pipes the internet runs through....

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