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  • A Adam Maras

    I vote for a Digg-style comment system, where remove-voted post visibility is controlled by default by a user preference, and further by a link/button on the voted post itself.

    Adam Maras | Software Developer Microsoft Certified Professional Developer

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    Miszou
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    Yeah, nice idea. Slashdot does the same thing, and I have the comments set to show *everything* just because I like to follow the off-beat rabbit hole threads. It has the added benefit of not even displaying the 'removed' threads if you choose not to see them, so you never even know that you're missing something. The CodeProject method is just a big tease in comparison - "Ha, something was here, but we're not telling you what it was! Oooh, and it was juicy too... full of controversy and nerdrage. Just the sort of post you'd have really enjoyed reading, but now you'll never know" :mad:

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    • A Adam Maras

      I vote for a Digg-style comment system, where remove-voted post visibility is controlled by default by a user preference, and further by a link/button on the voted post itself.

      Adam Maras | Software Developer Microsoft Certified Professional Developer

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      Lost User
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      How about those poor kid sisters though?

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        Yeah, nice idea. Slashdot does the same thing, and I have the comments set to show *everything* just because I like to follow the off-beat rabbit hole threads. It has the added benefit of not even displaying the 'removed' threads if you choose not to see them, so you never even know that you're missing something. The CodeProject method is just a big tease in comparison - "Ha, something was here, but we're not telling you what it was! Oooh, and it was juicy too... full of controversy and nerdrage. Just the sort of post you'd have really enjoyed reading, but now you'll never know" :mad:

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        Shog9 0
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        Miszou wrote:

        Slashdot does the same thing, and I have the comments set to show *everything* just because I like to follow the off-beat rabbit hole threads.

        It would be enough if post voted below your threshold would disappear along with all replies. Lower your threshold, bathe in noise; raise it, and it doesn't exist. Instead, we get replies without context, which sucks.

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          How about those poor kid sisters though?

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          harold aptroot wrote:

          How about those poor kid sisters though?

          If people are truly that sensitive then perhaps they should seek psychological help.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            harold aptroot wrote:

            How about those poor kid sisters though?

            If people are truly that sensitive then perhaps they should seek psychological help.

            Fall of the Republic[^]

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            Lost User
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            Sure, but the rule probably exists for a reason, I mean, Chris isn't a politician is he? :) [edit]to clarify: that means his rules probably make sense

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              Sure, but the rule probably exists for a reason, I mean, Chris isn't a politician is he? :) [edit]to clarify: that means his rules probably make sense

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              harold aptroot wrote:

              Sure, but the rule probably exists for a reason, I mean, Chris isn't a politician is he?

              Well, my reply to the donation thread was not about politics, however politics as you so like to call it is part of everyday life. The problem with people is that they consolidate, compartmentalize, and block out what they do not want to face up to.

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              • M Miszou

                So many threads of half-missing conversations. It's like listening to one end of a phone conversation, and all you can hear is "hmmm... aha.... oh yeah, I totally agree.... hahaha... Oh no she didn't!!..." Just because you don't want to read something someone said, doesn't mean you should vote for it to be removed so no one else can read it. Please, let me make up my own mind as to whether I should be able to see all the comments or not. Vote it down if you must, but removing half my reading material just because you don't like someones opinon or whatever is just plain annoying. There, I said it. 'Message Automatically Removed' sucks today (and every day actually).

                The StartPage Randomizer - The Windows Cheerleader - Twitter

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                Dan Neely
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                In short, CSS is an deranged raving idiot who can't quite get voted off the island before some well meaning idiots make the mistake of trying to argue with him.

                The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  Sure, but the rule probably exists for a reason, I mean, Chris isn't a politician is he?

                  Well, my reply to the donation thread was not about politics, however politics as you so like to call it is part of everyday life. The problem with people is that they consolidate, compartmentalize, and block out what they do not want to face up to.

                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                  Lost User
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                  Interesting, it wasn't even me who downvoted you But, seriously, this last message, I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. Also, no offense, but I have a feeling that I might not want to know.

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                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    How about those poor kid sisters though?

                    If people are truly that sensitive then perhaps they should seek psychological help.

                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Like you explicitly refuse to do ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      Sure, but the rule probably exists for a reason, I mean, Chris isn't a politician is he?

                      Well, my reply to the donation thread was not about politics, however politics as you so like to call it is part of everyday life. The problem with people is that they consolidate, compartmentalize, and block out what they do not want to face up to.

                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                      Lost User
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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      The problem with people is that they consolidate, compartmentalize, and block out what they do not want to face up to.

                      What, you mean all of us? We're doomed guys, head for the hills ...

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                        Like you explicitly refuse to do ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        Becoming chemically lobotomized and sexually impotent are not in my best interests.

                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                          Becoming chemically lobotomized and sexually impotent are not in my best interests.

                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                          Maximilien
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                          maybe, but it's in our best interests.

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                            maybe, but it's in our best interests.

                            This signature was proudly tested on animals.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            Wanting to hurt or see harm done to others is indicative of a dangerous mental illness. Seek help immediately.

                            Fall of the Republic[^]

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                              So many threads of half-missing conversations. It's like listening to one end of a phone conversation, and all you can hear is "hmmm... aha.... oh yeah, I totally agree.... hahaha... Oh no she didn't!!..." Just because you don't want to read something someone said, doesn't mean you should vote for it to be removed so no one else can read it. Please, let me make up my own mind as to whether I should be able to see all the comments or not. Vote it down if you must, but removing half my reading material just because you don't like someones opinon or whatever is just plain annoying. There, I said it. 'Message Automatically Removed' sucks today (and every day actually).

                              The StartPage Randomizer - The Windows Cheerleader - Twitter

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                              BillWoodruff
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                              Miszou wrote:

                              Just because you don't want to read something someone said, doesn't mean you should vote for it to be removed so no one else can read it.

                              Hi Miszou, How about we make a bargain here : if you don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do, or how I should, or should not vote, I won't tell you what you should or should not think :) Just because one or more persons vote to remove a message does not mean that message is automtically removed ! I trust Chris and CP staff to do "the right thing" to keep the Lounge and CP a place that "nurtures community," and is "kid sister safe." I am sure the decisions they make about what to remove are deliberate, and well thought out.

                              Miszou wrote:

                              Please, let me make up my own mind as to whether I should be able to see all the comments or not.

                              Is there something stopping you right now from "making up your own mind" whether you read comments on a removed post, or any other posts ? Learn to stop reading things when they confuse you, unless you suspect/believe they contain content worth learning something from, and, imho, you will be more at peace. Of course : "being more at peace" could then deprive addicts of "SuckPosts" of their "daily bread" : the moral issue in that ... well, each of us must come to grips with that using hazardous-material evaluation and handling techniques of our own choosing. Also, think of this : allowing banned messages to persist in some form would then diminish the "spectrum of suckness,' impoverish the lives of those who live to write code like :

                              // I am pretty new to Linq : please feel free to "fix" (neuter, or spay) this code to taste

                              List<SpectrumOfSuckness.Posts.SuckPostTopicType> possibleSuckPostTopics =
                              new List<SpectrumOfSuckness.Posts.SuckPostTopicType>();

                              possibleSuckPostTopics =
                              (
                              from suckPostTopic in SpectrumOfSuckness.SuckTopics

                              	where
                              		suckPostTopic.TopicFlavor == SpectrumOfSuckness.Flavors.Suckissimus
                              
                              	orderby 
                              		suckPostTopic.IrritationQuotient ascending
                              			
                                  	select suckPostTopic
                              

                              )
                              .ToList();

                              // selection procedure from list of possibleSuckPostTopics
                              // left out here as an exercise for the reader

                              best, Bill

                              "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, num

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                                Miszou wrote:

                                Just because you don't want to read something someone said, doesn't mean you should vote for it to be removed so no one else can read it.

                                Hi Miszou, How about we make a bargain here : if you don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do, or how I should, or should not vote, I won't tell you what you should or should not think :) Just because one or more persons vote to remove a message does not mean that message is automtically removed ! I trust Chris and CP staff to do "the right thing" to keep the Lounge and CP a place that "nurtures community," and is "kid sister safe." I am sure the decisions they make about what to remove are deliberate, and well thought out.

                                Miszou wrote:

                                Please, let me make up my own mind as to whether I should be able to see all the comments or not.

                                Is there something stopping you right now from "making up your own mind" whether you read comments on a removed post, or any other posts ? Learn to stop reading things when they confuse you, unless you suspect/believe they contain content worth learning something from, and, imho, you will be more at peace. Of course : "being more at peace" could then deprive addicts of "SuckPosts" of their "daily bread" : the moral issue in that ... well, each of us must come to grips with that using hazardous-material evaluation and handling techniques of our own choosing. Also, think of this : allowing banned messages to persist in some form would then diminish the "spectrum of suckness,' impoverish the lives of those who live to write code like :

                                // I am pretty new to Linq : please feel free to "fix" (neuter, or spay) this code to taste

                                List<SpectrumOfSuckness.Posts.SuckPostTopicType> possibleSuckPostTopics =
                                new List<SpectrumOfSuckness.Posts.SuckPostTopicType>();

                                possibleSuckPostTopics =
                                (
                                from suckPostTopic in SpectrumOfSuckness.SuckTopics

                                	where
                                		suckPostTopic.TopicFlavor == SpectrumOfSuckness.Flavors.Suckissimus
                                
                                	orderby 
                                		suckPostTopic.IrritationQuotient ascending
                                			
                                    	select suckPostTopic
                                

                                )
                                .ToList();

                                // selection procedure from list of possibleSuckPostTopics
                                // left out here as an exercise for the reader

                                best, Bill

                                "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, num

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                You reek of disdain and insolence. You can put perfume on shit but that doesn't make it stink any less.

                                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Wanting to hurt or see harm done to others is indicative of a dangerous mental illness. Seek help immediately.

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                  AspDotNetDev
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                                  You state:

                                  • If people are deranged, they should seek psychological help.
                                  • You refuse to seek psychological help, because it will make you sexually impotent and chemically lobotomized.
                                  • Wanting to see harm done to others indicates a dangerous mental illness.
                                  • Those with a dangerous mental illness should seek help (presumably psychological) immediately.

                                  Conclusion:

                                  • You think others that are too sensitive should seek psychological help.
                                  • Psychologial help is harmful.
                                  • You wish that what is harmful (psychological help) to be applied to others (those who are too sensitive).
                                  • Since you want to see harm (psychological help) applied to others (the too sensitive), you have a dangerous mental illnesss and should seek (psychological) help immediately.

                                  Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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                                    You state:

                                    • If people are deranged, they should seek psychological help.
                                    • You refuse to seek psychological help, because it will make you sexually impotent and chemically lobotomized.
                                    • Wanting to see harm done to others indicates a dangerous mental illness.
                                    • Those with a dangerous mental illness should seek help (presumably psychological) immediately.

                                    Conclusion:

                                    • You think others that are too sensitive should seek psychological help.
                                    • Psychologial help is harmful.
                                    • You wish that what is harmful (psychological help) to be applied to others (those who are too sensitive).
                                    • Since you want to see harm (psychological help) applied to others (the too sensitive), you have a dangerous mental illnesss and should seek (psychological) help immediately.

                                    Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                    You state: * If people are deranged, they should seek psychological help. * You refuse to seek psychological help, because it will make you sexually impotent and chemically lobotomized. * Wanting to see harm done to others indicates a dangerous mental illness. * Those with a dangerous mental illness should seek help (presumably psychological) immediately. Conclusion: * You think others that are too sensitive should seek psychological help. * Psychologial help is harmful. * You wish that what is harmful (psychological help) to be applied to others (those who are too sensitive). * Since you want to see harm (psychological help) applied to others (the too sensitive), you have a dangerous mental illnesss and should seek (psychological) help immediately.

                                    I knew someone would reply with this. I was simply redirecting his evil wishes back to himself where they rightfully belong.

                                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                      aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                      You state: * If people are deranged, they should seek psychological help. * You refuse to seek psychological help, because it will make you sexually impotent and chemically lobotomized. * Wanting to see harm done to others indicates a dangerous mental illness. * Those with a dangerous mental illness should seek help (presumably psychological) immediately. Conclusion: * You think others that are too sensitive should seek psychological help. * Psychologial help is harmful. * You wish that what is harmful (psychological help) to be applied to others (those who are too sensitive). * Since you want to see harm (psychological help) applied to others (the too sensitive), you have a dangerous mental illnesss and should seek (psychological) help immediately.

                                      I knew someone would reply with this. I was simply redirecting his evil wishes back to himself where they rightfully belong.

                                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      *Guy trips and falls on face* Then replies: "I meant to do that; I was actually just checking to see what it was like to see the ground approaching with the acceleration of gravity."

                                      Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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                                        You reek of disdain and insolence. You can put perfume on shit but that doesn't make it stink any less.

                                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                        BillWoodruff
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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        You reek of disdain and insolence.

                                        Thanks, CSS, Have your first five for that almost Chaucerian riposte ! That's a high standard to live up to, but I will try :) best, Bill

                                        "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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                                          How about those poor kid sisters though?

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Going by the ages of most people here, it's *I* who is not KSS.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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